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post #21 of 25 Old 06-22-2009, 05:44 PM Thread Starter
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I would like to point out, just because you read it in a book or heard it from a vet doesn't make it correct. Some of the things I read in rodent care book just make me want to punch the writer in the face. Gerbils and hamsters do NOT do okay living together for example, but I've read a book that says they do great together. I've also had a vet tell me that canned cat food is a complete diet for rats And this was for a rat who would get protein sores if I gave her a bit of chicken!

Cats, like ferrets, can not need meat, nor can they digest it.
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post #22 of 25 Old 06-22-2009, 10:32 PM
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Originally Posted by 1dog3cats17rodents View Post
I would like to point out, just because you read it in a book or heard it from a vet doesn't make it correct.
I couldn't agree more! A vet once accused me of squeezing or dropping my hamster because both of his eyes were bulging out. I hadn't done either. With some simple googling we found out that Hammy had a fairly common case of Glaucoma. The same vet proceeded to give us an antibiotic of amoxicillin, which is known to be unsafe for small animals.
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post #23 of 25 Old 06-22-2009, 11:29 PM
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I couldn't agree with you more about the "central" group who slam people for things they themselves clearly know nothing about. Unfortunately there are always those self righteous do gooders out there who think that by buying the most expensive feed etc. is what being a pet owner is all about, like look at me I pay 50$ for a bag of feed so I know more than you...here's a thought check the labels guarantee no difference between whats in that 50$ bag and whats in a 10$ bag..you pay for the brand just like with clothing or anything else.
As far as books, vets that's all based on their own perceptions and theories mostly so you bet there is questionable content and advise.
My opinion is if you feed your pet regardless of what it is, you give it fresh water, you know what basic first aid is at the least and are willing to learn more about your particular pet then you are a good pet owner.
The whole pet store, breeding uproar to me is a bit over the edge. I do agree that there are a lot of shady pet stores out there but the major chains that I have visited have always took very good care of their animals and the breeding part well if everyone quit breeding everything but the top quality animals out there most of us in the real working world could never afford them and it would create such a small gene pool that defects would eventually be so rampant you could never get rid of them.
So there is my rant about the "central" groups who slam people

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post #24 of 25 Old 06-23-2009, 10:22 AM
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Originally Posted by LDblackhorse View Post
well I will say this again I know what he has and he does get honey water and is on a high protien diet food. He is not on medication becuase after the first seszure the vet didn't think he would live past six months. that was when he was one he is now 6years old. Pretty good for a ferret on no medications. HE gets more care then some people.
he dosen't have seizures often. He also had the insolnoma before he every had treats, this happened after 4 months we owned him. So it was not caused be me. As for the treat thing that came from a ferret care book. they sugessted cucumber, carrot, small cooked shrimp and even fruit loops. there words were that ferrets can gorge themselves and give in small modiration. It is a treat.
Just like a horse you may give a apple but you don't give it to him for a meal because he can colic if given to many.
also our guy has never had an upset stomach or anything. No diarhea or anything so is digestive tract can't be bad if his stools are noraml.

Also how do you feed a ferret meat when he refuses meat from day one. we tried diffrent meats at the beginning he rufused them all. that is why he is on a special high protien diet. our female will eat meat but not him.

either way fine for the advice people that is great, i like to learn. But the issue is done for me. i just disliked the tone and being jumped on from the start. I find this forum quite annoying at times one mintue some one does something people are like oh cute. then the next as soon as some one says they dislike it then you are jumped on. Or you get the people who conastantly ask advice and then are the first to critisize every one. Well I had enough. My ferrets are happy and healthy and I think we have done a pretty good job for a ferret with insolnoma and no medications.
I'm trying to give you some good and accurate advice because I am a VERY knowledgable ferret owner, I'm not trying to bash you. Insulinoma is a terrible disease and the ferret suffers greatly each time he or she has a seizure. It's awful. As was already said, just because its in a ferret care book, it doesn't make it right. There are some VERY wrong books out there. The best book out there I have already given you the name as well as any article by Dr. Bruce Williams, DVM. If you do research on ferret anatomy, you will find that they do not have a cecum. A cecum is found in animals that are made to digest plant matter. Obviously, if a ferret doesn't have one they aren't supposed to eat plant matter!!!! It's a fact, non-negotiable. Also, you have to force them to eat meat if they don't like it. You keep offering it to them until they finally eat it. You do this with duck soup (no, it does not contain duck, it contains a mixture of chicken, kibble, and water). It has taken many people months to get their ferret to eat it. You do it with patience and consistency. If your child didn't like vegetables would you just give up on them eating them? I would certainly hope not since its imparative to their health that they eat them. Obviously you are going to do what you want, but I just wanted to throw that information out there.


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post #25 of 25 Old 06-23-2009, 11:53 PM
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Originally Posted by VACountryGirl View Post
I'm trying to give you some good and accurate advice because I am a VERY knowledgable ferret owner,
Although you seem to know what you're talking about, I can't help but mention how arrogant that statement sounded. Most people won't take advice from somebody who claims to be better than them. Good luck getting her to listen now. :)
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