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post #1 of 40 Old 05-17-2010, 10:18 AM Thread Starter
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Angry Rant.. Would appreciate everyones opinions.

Okay, to start off I live on a farm, I have my whole life. All of us have always doctored on all our animals, wheather it be horses, dogs, cats, hogs, cattle...Anything and everything we done it if we could.. Now keep in mind if it's anything severe that we feel we can not handle we DO NOT hesitate to call the vet and have her out here (just recently had her out here for Winter when he needed sewed up). Now we have three working dogs...My 6 year old Border Collie, my 5 year old Aussie and my brothers 7 year old Border Collie, they work it's there job but they are also our friends/companions and everything. Now where I am going with this, recently my brothers Border Collie, Ivy was chasing the horses and got kicked in her shoulder by a TWH he had training. The horse had shoes on and when she kicked Ivy it left an open wound. Now it didn't break anything and it sure as heck didn't slow Ivy down any.. Lewis (my brother) and his wife doctored on her everyday ( I believe this happened a week or two ago) and it's now healed. She does however have a little limp now but it's nothing that slows her down and it's all part of "farm" life...If you chase the horse you take a chance of getting kicked.. But that's still not where I am going.. Haha Anyway to give you a little bit of background on Ivy..She was owned by a little that lived in the city. She wanted Ivy to go to a home where to could thrive and do what she is ment to do, what she is bred to do and what all Border Collies love to do...Live on a farm, work cattle, herd animals and chase stuff.. So the previous owner gave her to my brother TWO YEARS ago.. Part of the agreement was she could come and see Ivy on occasion..She never calls, just shows up. Well that was fine and they never said anything about it to her.. Ivy went from being a inside house dog to having acres of land to roam, animals to chase and herd and kids to chase and herd.. She is so much happier now then when she first came. Well anyways on to the point of this, the previous owner showed up Friday and seen Ivy was limping.. She asked about it and they told her. They also told her they took care of her and it wasn't anything see needed to see a vet about. Oh and keep in mind Ivy is registered and the papers were signed and given to my brother so he is the legal owner of Ivy. Also she never mentioned anything else about it and went on. Well today the Animal Control showed up and gave my sister in law a week to get her to the vet and have a written statement saying the dog had been to the vet and everything is alright.. Now guess who called AC? The previous owner.. Said she feared the dogs safety and wasn't sure they are taking care of her?!?! What??If they wasn't taken care of her they wouldn't have done anything?? I don't understand how AC can come up here and make you take your dog to the vet when she has already been looked after and everything is fine.. I think this is a load of crap and shouldn't anything been said in the first place. This is a working farm and anyone who has working dogs knows what can go wrong. Now I want to know what do yall think? Do you think he should be able to come and demend you take your dog to the vet AFTER it's healed and she is doing fine?

Like I said I have always doctored on my own animals UNLESS it's something that would really need to be seen by the vet and again we would NEVER hesitate to call a vet and have them out. But this is just crazy. I know a lot of other people that doctor on there own animals.

So yall with working farms or just working dogs or anyone really let me know your thoughts on this please and thanks..

Sorry this got so long.. I was just really ticked that they are able to do something like I mean I could understand if she wasn't looked after or taken care of but to have the AC called on someone who actually TAKES care of their animals...They could have been out arresting or investigating all the neglect cases and starvation cases around here in the time they were here.

Haha okay I am now done.. Cookies to anyone who reads all this.

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post #2 of 40 Old 05-17-2010, 10:21 AM
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Anyone has the right to contact AC at any time and file a concern - AC is then obligated to investigate. If no concerns are found, everyone goes on their merry way.
AC has the right - and responsibility - to require that those who choose to take on the responsibility of an animal to provide what is legally necessary, including medical care.
I do understand doing your own doctoring, don't get me wrong, but legally there was nothing wrong done to you in this situation.
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Paragraphs are your friend. Wow, that is hard to read as one big huge block of text.


I tend to agree with themacpack.

Get over it. Take the dog to the vet and be done with it.

Next time you adopt a dog do not agree to visit at anytime.


In my opinion if the dog healed with a limp then it probably did require vet care at the time of the accident. Might it still have had a limp? Sure. But at least you would have known what was going on instead of wrongly assuming there was nothing wrong inside, just a big cut.
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Well today the Animal Control showed up and gave my sister in law a week to get her to the vet and have a written statement saying the dog had been to the vet and everything is alright.. Now guess who called AC? The previous owner.. Said she feared the dogs safety and wasn't sure they are taking care of her?!?! What??If they wasn't taken care of her they wouldn't have done anything?? I don't understand how AC can come up here and make you take your dog to the vet when she has already been looked after and everything is fine.. I think this is a load of crap and shouldn't anything been said in the first place. This is a working farm and anyone who has working dogs knows what can go wrong. Now I want to know what do yall think? Do you think he should be able to come and demend you take your dog to the vet AFTER it's healed and she is doing fine?

Anytime the animal control is called regarding the health or safety of an animal they will come and investigate. However, they don't come out and serve you with a paper based on the callers statements. The animal control officer would have to determine if he saw a need for medical attention. He must have thought the animal was in pain or poor condition. Otherwise you should be able to make a complaint against him.

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Thanks everyone. And sorry about the big block of text got a little carried away trying to form all my thoughts together. And I know there is nothing against making a complaint. I just really think it's dirty of her to call the AC instead of just telling her that day that she though they should have taken her to the vet. And they way he talked ( I guess this is what I was mad about) it was wrong for us to try to do anything for the dog and she should have went straight to the vet.

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Anytime the animal control is called regarding the health or safety of an animal they will come and investigate. However, they don't come out and serve you with a paper based on the callers statements. The animal control officer would have to determine if he saw a need for medical attention. He must have thought the animal was in pain or poor condition. Otherwise you should be able to make a complaint against him.
Oh and he was over there playing ball with her. He pretty much even said they only reason he is having them take her to the vet is so the previous owner will be content.

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No, you have to take him to the vet to prove that you provided medical attention and so that the vet can evaluate the situation to see if further care is necessary (or was at the time). If the vet determines that your failure to seek medical attention for the dog resulted in improper healing, etc you could find yourselves facing negligence charges.
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I agree with the others.

AC has to show up if they receive a complaint.

If there was nothing wrong with the dog, they would have told you everything was fine and gone on their merry way. The fact that they said the dog needed to be cleared by a vet, means they believe there's a problem.

AC has every right to require that an animal sees a vet. After all, they'll be the ones confiscating the animal if it's not properly cared for.

Everyone thinks of themselves as the greatest owner ever, and gets mad if AC is called. Except of course, if they're the ones calling on someone else. Then AC are still the bad guys, for not taking the other person's animals away immediately.

If the dog is limping, she needs to see a vet. AC made the right call, as far as I'm concerned.
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The only thing I can see that AC may have done wrong is revealing the complainants information to you.
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The only thing I can see that AC may have done wrong is revealing the complainants information to you.
Exactly. That information should not have been given to you.
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