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post #21 of 40 Old 05-17-2010, 11:44 AM Thread Starter
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Well, as long as she's been seen and cleared by a vet, that's all the AC officer requires.

Really, AC aren't the bad guys. They do a lot of good, and I'm just glad they actually responded. In some places it's hard to get them to come out unless the animal is down and dying, and even then, you just don't know if they'll show up.
Thanks. And I think that's what I was upset about. We had a person a while back that had a horse they starved and beat and we told AC and they never went out and then guess what? The horse died. No charges were brought because they said they lacked evidence. But then to come out about something this simple? That's what I was mad about.

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That is why leashes, pens, cages, etc were invented.

Yes, the dog will be miserable.
Yes, a miserable dog means annoyed humans.

But sometimes being a pet owner means we do what is best for them even if it is more work for us.

Kind of like stall rest for our horse.
I understand where you are coming from, I really do. Ivy is my brothers baby and he did make her rest in the house, like I stated but she would whine to go out and play and I guess he just gave it because it was heartbreaking to hear her. And they did try the leash haha til it was my 5 year old neices turn to take her out and she ended up being drug behind Ivy hehe Even hurt that dog has some power when she wants to go.

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post #23 of 40 Old 05-17-2010, 11:51 AM
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Sometimes it does appear to be random, and many AC officers aren't that familiar with horses and other livestock. Dogs, cats, and small domestic animals are more their domain.

Plus, you have to remember that seizing a horse isn't the same as seizing a dog or litter of kittens. There are all sorts of logistical problems with horses, and there just aren't enough rescues and fosters available to take them.

Some AC officers are worse than useless when it comes to livestock, unfortunately.
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ITA with Speedracer - also, the legalities regarding livestock are often far different than those that regulate the keeping of standard domestic pet animals. What is considered required minimal care for FiFi is quite different than what would be considered minimum standard care for Bessie the cow. A lot of times a "useless" AC officer is actually just someone with their hands completely tied as to what they can/can't deem actionable circumstances. What they can do is often far from what they would like to do.
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post #25 of 40 Old 05-17-2010, 12:02 PM
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A lot of times a "useless" AC officer is actually just someone with their hands completely tied as to what they can/can't deem actionable circumstances. What they can do is often far from what they would like to do.
Absolutely agree.

Some AC officers can't do anything, depending on the laws regarding the care of livestock versus that of domestic animals.

They have much more leeway on seizing domestic animals.
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I would have been pretty chapped if AC came to my place and demanded that I take my dog to the vet. I would question the legality of that since the police can't show up and make you take your child to the doctor without a court order. I would also make it clear to the person I got the dog from that if they ever showed up on the property again I would call the police and file trespassing charges.

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post #27 of 40 Old 05-17-2010, 12:12 PM
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Kevin, AC can get a court order if they have to. That's what their follow up visits are for.

You're in Utah. I don't know how AC works out in the wild west, but here on the east coast they have as much power as any LEO, and sometimes more.

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And they did try the leash haha til it was my 5 year old neices turn to take her out and she ended up being drug behind Ivy hehe Even hurt that dog has some power when she wants to go.
Funny mental image.

But honestly, (not blaming you) it is an excuse. Who in their right mind thinks a 5yo can handle a dog on a leash that wants to run?

They were not being overly responsible!


Kevin, just like SR said, here in my area the animal control officers have the ability to arrest people and everything. They carry guns even.
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We have managed to keep a little tighter control on our government so they are not allowed to abuse our civil rights. I wouldn't have taken that dog to the vet until they came back with a court order. The officer had no choice to investigate but I would think he overstepped his bounds in requiring that the dog be taken to the vet. Either way it could have been avoided by not letting the previous owner stick her nose into the current owners life. I wouldn't care if it was the best horse or dog in the world I would never take an animal if the owner insisted on visiting.

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Kevin, just like SR said, here in my area the animal control officers have the ability to arrest people and everything. They carry guns even.
They are still bound by a little thing called the bill of rights and the constitution. I'm not impressed by people that carry guns (I carry one every day) and I don't allow law enforcement officers to overreach thier bounds. I will assist them in any way up to the point that they go past the line drawn by the constitution then I oppose them with every thing I have.

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