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    11-08-2012, 02:33 PM
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Want to finally have my own dog...

Well..I dropped out of my trade school and start a $9 an hour full-time job tomorrow..and I'm interested in getting my own dog. I've trained my cousin's dogs and the only time I ever really go out and about without my car is with the dogs. I'd like to get back into shape a bit more and I think having a dog at home would be great for that and help out a lot. I'll have enough money to pay for my car, take care of the dog, and pay for my general needs (food, personal items, etc).
The possible problem is that my mum is terrified of dogs..especially one's any bigger than a yorkie or something (which I can't stand small dogs). It'd be staying outside in a kennel (blankets, bed and all) and I'd be taking full responsibility for it. My yard is fenced already and we have a deck with fence around the pool as well.

What I'm asking is how should I sweet talk my mum into allowing it to happen? I know how to properly train it, I'll cover all costs, I'll be responsible for all cleaning/care, it'll most likely deter the intruders that seem to want to come in our yard (I'm going to threaten to shoot em if I see them), and it'll help me get back into shape because I'll have to walk/jog it. That's what I currently have on my list to try and convince her, can anyone think of anything else?
I'll most likely be getting one from the humane society we have here or a half hour away (will be looking in both), because I'm not interested in buying from a breeder right now, as I'd like to save up good money for my next dog, which will be either a hound, lab, or beagle bred for hunting/bird retrieving.
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    11-09-2012, 09:17 AM
You have to work with your mom and her fear. Of those breeds you mentioned, I would highly suggest the lab. Big hounds have that deep, resounding OOW! And they and beagles, no matter how well trained can be very distracted by smells. I have a soft spot for labs. My baby I adopted when he was six months old. Now he is eight. He is my best baby in the world.

With your mon's fear, pugs are the way to go. They aren't the best running partners with their short legs, but are VERY active dogs, and need to be high activity to keep from getting horribly fat. Look up and like "Steve the Pug" on Facebook and you will see a very active healthy winning pug. He "runs" a lesson program in ohio. Being a barn manager is hard work on a pug but somepuggy has to do it. They are kind, loving, as active as you want to be, not as stubborn as people think if you take the time to train them, and they are so darn cute. They are far from intimidating.

Something you must do is enroll in obedience classes, preferably with a local person, not Petsmart. Whether or not you can train your dog yourself, this might help gain some faith in your mother that you are definitely working on getting him an education. She might not see you doing it in your backyard, but she will notice when you put him in the car and drive to his class. Assure your mom that these classes will make him perfect. Talk up your instructor. For example, mine was number two in the country for some time with Great Pyrenees. She also had many awards for obedience and shows from across the country. Neat woman! Plus, classes are a blast.

Do not under any circumstances get one without your moms blessing. Nothing is worse than a surprise puppy. Write up a plan. Write up your promises(and KEEP them). Write up the benefits. For example, if you are running down the street, you are less likely to be grabbed by some psycho off the street because people fear dogs. He will be a big physical deterrent to attackers even if be is the sweetest dog.

Include your mom in everything. Shopping for supplies. Even see if she would come to the shelter with you(Stress that you will be SAVING a life). Most places have rooms where you can meet the dogs individually so she wouldn't have to walk through the kennels. Plus they are all secure in their enclosures and can't get out.

And go SLOW! Plan to get your dog... Three months from now. Set your goal far away and work slowly on carefully removing this barrier. Busting through will cause a mess. You want to do this calmly, and carefully, and neatly.
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    11-09-2012, 09:22 AM
Oh and include your mom in EVERY success. Talk and talk and talk. Have good energy. My mom is afraid of snakes. When I started dating my boyfriend who loves them, I got into them. I tell my mom everything. So when we were living there and I was starting my collection, I would include her. I would bring them down after sheds and tell her about them. My mom is such a good sport. She still won't hold them but is better.
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    11-09-2012, 09:32 AM
Green Broke
Thank you.(: I was definitely planning on including her and making sure that she is willing to have it. I actually went to the shelter yesterday for a peek and saw the sweetest, most adorable mastiff and Doberman. I doubt my mum would go for the Doberman, but I think she very well might be open to a "big teddy bear" type that the mastiff seems to be. He was a little shy, so he probably wouldn't run up to her as a greeting when she went to/from work through the yard.

I'm definitely going to try be home when she is so that we can get the house cleaned up (she said she isn't discussing absolutely anything until it is (I didn't do it all, lol). I'm going to write her a list of pros/cons and look around for some obedience classes that might work out (I'll be working a lot from now on), and I'm going to get my brother's pros/cons as well, since he's been asking periodically for a dog since he was little.

I included my mum in the horses when I first started having to ask her for a ride to the barn (use to only ride when my dad had my brother and I), and she tends to run away or cringe if I got too close with the horse, but she finally pet the mare once (got scared when she moved her head, but that's okay, lol). She ended up going to one of my horse shows and actually sat onthe bleachers where the horses stand beside, I thought that was an accomplishment. She actually came up to me on my mare instead of trying to usher me over, haha.
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    11-09-2012, 09:36 AM
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I think there are too many obstacles for you to get a dog.
Brand new full time job, away from home 40+ hours a week.
Mom terrified of dogs, She won't help, what if you go out of town?
I think getting a dog and throwing it outside in a kennel is a disservice to any dog.
When are you going to train it, before work? After work in the dark?

Putting a dog in a kennel alone for 40 hours while you work + 10 hours getting ready for and travel time to work + and the 60 or so hours you eat, sleep, go out. Plus I am sure more hours than that. That is a lot of time alone in a kennel.

If by some chance you get a dog, please get an adult dog from a rescue.
    11-09-2012, 09:48 AM
Green Broke
I guess I should also suggest waiting untill spring. A puppy can't be put outside in the cold when it is too young and in the spring the weather will be better, daylight will be longer, and you have time to get used to your job and your Mom get used to the idea.

Good luck.
    11-09-2012, 09:52 AM
Green Broke
The job is 40 minutes from home, and I don't start until 9am at the earliest. I'm up around 5-6am without an alarm and get all the sleep I need. The company does not allow more than 40 hours a week, and there is no out of town work, it's all in their warehouse.

Also, the dog will not be housed in a kennel. There will be a dog house/kennel with blankets/a bed and I plan to set up a tie-line in the yard if the dog is below my knee (otherwise it can roam our fenced yard because there aren't any places that it could get out. I eat at home or get food to go and I rarely go out aside from to the barn, in which I will bring the dog with me. I also only take 20-30 minutes to get ready (including shower, dressing, eating, etc).

If I were to absolutely have to go out of town, I'm sure my brother would be more than happy to take care of the dog and take it out for jogs.

I see no wrong in keeping a dog outside with a kennel/dog house and a yard. I can understand a small dog with short fur (such as a pug, dachshund, chihuaha, etc) not doing well outside, but I'm also not interested in getting a dog that small.
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    11-09-2012, 09:55 AM
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I'm also not interested in an actual puppy, I'm interested in a 1-3 year old dog (preferably closer to 3). A puppy will usually want to run up and greet any person more so than a more mature dog (depending on the personality, which I'm definitely going to evaluate thoroughly).
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    11-09-2012, 09:59 AM
How much time per day would you have with the dog?

I really can't see too many dogs striving on limited human contact and being left outside alone, even with a proper shelter.

I recommend going to chazhound.com/forums and getting advice there.. lots of knowledgeable members and I'm sure you'd get more responses.
    11-09-2012, 10:07 AM
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Personally I'd have atleast 2-3 hours in the morning (if I start at 9) or 2-5 if I start at noon. My brother gets home at 2.30 in which I imagine he'll be more than happy to either play with it or take it for a jog for an hour or two (he loves playing with the cousin's dogs). I'd get home at either 5 or 8, in which I'd take it out and about (be it light or dark) for an hour or two. If I get home at 5, I'll probably pick it up (and change/eat) and take it to the barn with me for 2-3 hours. My horse has no issues with dogs, so I could take it for a trail/pasture ride (if pasture the other horses will be locked in the run-in) with me on a lunge line.

I'll probably make a post there as well later on tonight, thank you for the link.(:
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