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    10-19-2012, 12:47 AM
  #21
Yearling
I have to admit, I chuckle a little at the image of a young man being angry at his parents for taking away his right to have a foreskin.
My husband's father is uncirumcised, and the only opinion he has on it, is thank goodness his doesn't look like that.
I suppose there might be those who would feel as though a piece of them was missing (pun intended).
     
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    10-19-2012, 02:16 AM
  #22
Yearling
I find it interesting that there seems to be a debate about whether or not its good, bad, or irrelevant when it comes to boys, but mention being in favour of female circumcision and and people are ready to lynch you from the nearest tree. Why is it so different? After all, its a cultural/religious practice that removes a portion of a person's genitalia, most of the medical reasons put forth are half a@#ed justifications from those who advocate it. If you had a daughter would you be willing to have it done to her? Not meaning to offend anyone here, just trying to throw in a bit of perspective.
     
    10-19-2012, 03:00 AM
  #23
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Female circumsicion, better named "female mutilation" is not the same. The entire clitoris is excised, thus , the woman can probably never achieve orgasm. Also, if the labia are also cut off, this is a much , much larger amount of skin to cut off. It is also done when the girl is about 5, so is very traumatic, frequently done without anesthetic, with the mother and aunt holding down a screaming child.
It is meant to take away her enjoyment of sex.
You consider that equivilent with male circumsicion? Uh uh. No way.
     
    10-19-2012, 03:17 AM
  #24
Yearling
What I am trying to highlight is the assumption that sniping off a bit of one persons genitalia is somehow a trivial matter and that of another is, or should be, a crime. Im against any sort of genital mutilation, male or female and I reject this “oh its not that bad” attitude when it comes to it being done to boys, believe me, if someone, in the name of culture or religion walked up to me with a little bit of flint and said “c'mon, whip it out, we'll only cut off a little bit” I would sure as hell be telling them where to go.
     
    10-19-2012, 06:37 AM
  #25
Trained
This is another example of the influence of the Jewish culture in this country.
ALL jewish males must be circumcised in order to be members of community.
We do not even have a Doctor perform the procedure it is done by a Rabbie who specializes in it . The parents have a party and the child receives gifts {money}.
I know of no study that show any hostility between the mother and son over this procedure. In fact Jewish mothers are usually so "overindulgent" with their male children the bond there is very strong.
I have read in the history of Europe it was discouraged and used to determine who was a Jew.
You want to have the procedure done on your son.
That is yours and your husbands decission to make. Period.
IMO your sister is vying for control ober something she has no right to interfere with. Shalom
     
    10-19-2012, 07:22 AM
  #26
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I have 2 sons that were circumcised and no bond issues what so ever! Couldn't beat 'em away with a stick! (not that I want to) Congrats on your boy and hope your sister will accept your decision. And make a little peace.
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    10-19-2012, 07:29 AM
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If my sister said she wouldn't change diapers will she was visiting due to my decision she would not be visiting at all. I am a bitch like that.... It is not any of her business what I do or do not do if is is not a decision that involves her. And that is just what I would tell her.
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    10-19-2012, 08:44 AM
  #28
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Peppers, I am surprised that you want your sister to be there at the birth when she is already causing you upset. You don't "owe" this to her; it's not part of forming or maintaining a sisterly relationship. I think you need to settle the whole situation of her thinking. Opinions are great; new information is great, but disagreeing and being downright nasty about it is NOT welcome at any time, and certainly not while you are going through so many new things.

Personally, I would tell her she is not welcome at the birth because I wouldn't want the negativity and bullying when I'm going through enough of my own crap at the time. She needs to back off.
     
    10-19-2012, 08:53 AM
  #29
Trained
^^ Agree totally. Surround yourself with those who SUPPORT you during this. If she cannot-she gets to stay home and visit when she is "over it". I would tell her such. This is the time for you, the father and the baby to bond. It is not about anyone else. When my daughter in law gave birth last fall, she had some of this issue with her mom. Thankfully she is a string enough person to tell her mom that she loves her, but she was NOT welcome in the delivery room. They build those nice waiting rooms for someone!
     
    10-19-2012, 09:08 AM
  #30
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Peppers, I am surprised that you want your sister to be there at the birth when she is already causing you upset. You don't "owe" this to her; it's not part of forming or maintaining a sisterly relationship. I think you need to settle the whole situation of her thinking. Opinions are great; new information is great, but disagreeing and being downright nasty about it is NOT welcome at any time, and certainly not while you are going through so many new things.

Personally, I would tell her she is not welcome at the birth because I wouldn't want the negativity and bullying when I'm going through enough of my own crap at the time. She needs to back off.
Couldn't agree more. I am a mother but I have a girl so no input on the circumcision part of it. My sister however has 2 boys, I can't even fathom butting my nose in on something like that. It wouldn't have been my place just like it isn't your sisters place either. I wouldn't hesitate to tell her to back off - you can ask my sister, she would confirm that...

Heck, if you don't want to broach that conversation with her, let her read this thread

Congrats on your little man! You know that we will now be expecting pictures when he arrives right?
     

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