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post #31 of 39 Old 09-28-2012, 07:32 AM
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Our children today are so coddled and parents try to be friends first and parent last. My adage is my kids have friends their own age. I am the parent and the only one who will teach them as a parent. There is always time to be a friend to your kids later in life.

I have already said my kids are 31 and 16 and both are wonderful kids. Son lived with his dad after he was 13 so I didn't live first hand with him as a teenager to know how he was but his dad always told me he appreciated what a great job I did with him as he was no trouble there.

My daughter has never had the divorce issue handed to her. Husband and I have been together for 22 years. She is the easiest child to raise ever! Straight A student...every teacher she has ever had has told me they wished they could clone her. Over heard once in class by her biology teacher telling a student she was not sitting there to visit but to learn. She is very dedicated to her horse and would rather spend time with them at the barn the going to the party with the booze. She is mature far beyond her years... and I am very blessed. I love her and we are friends earlier than most but I am still her parent first!
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post #32 of 39 Old 09-28-2012, 08:19 AM
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I voted yes, no permission. It was an option when I was in school and just the thought of and embarrassment associated with going to the principal to get paddled was enough to make most kids behave. I never got paddled but did get slapped on the wrists with a ruler in front of my entire 3rd grade class for talking when I shouldn't have been. Ironically enough, that teacher was my absolute favorite and had a huge impact on the kind of student and avid reader I became.

Of course most of the behavioral problems start at home but just because the parents aren't parenting the school system, teachers and MY child that does behave shouldn't have the quality of learning lessened because those children don't respect authority. Some of the things that have happened at school are shocking and ridiculous and punishment is a joke. That's usually the first thing I hear when DD gets home - "Mom, so and so did this!" so it is very obviously a distraction for others if that is the first thing she feels she should tell me. When Johnny losing 5 minutes of recess because he hit another kid is more important than telling me she aced her spelling test, there is a problem. One that time outs and taking away a little bit of play time won't fix.

My daughter has gotten a couple spankings, both for doing something dangerous after being told not to. She never did those things again. On the rare occasion she does get herself in trouble we do physical labor. It takes awhile to pick up a whole skid loader bucket of manure in the pasture when you are 7.

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post #33 of 39 Old 09-28-2012, 08:49 AM
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OMG you sound just like my son MHFQ LOL... my granddaughter does a lot of manure moving. Went there one day and she was shoveling away for refusing to brush her hair. I said I bet next time you will brush your hair after being told she said I don't know mema, sometime I would rather shovel. It will depend on the day!
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post #34 of 39 Old 09-28-2012, 08:56 AM
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Lol Wicked! It works and have to love the bonus of not having to do it myself :) Pulling weeds and picking up rocks are in the rotation too. I'm also a fan of writing sentences but prefer good, hard work. It's a win win, gives her time to consider why she is doing it and is outdoors.
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post #35 of 39 Old 09-28-2012, 10:05 AM
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I am on the fence. I was spanked by the principle once in kindergarten, and I did behave after that. But now that my daughter is in school, I don't know how I would feel about a stranger laying a hand on her. I feel as though it should be a last resort. Give the parents a chance to handle it first.
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post #36 of 39 Old 09-29-2012, 12:21 AM
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I do not believe in coporal punishment EVER at school or at home.
Most of you know my chosen profession and there are many studies that prove it has no affect on the students decision to be disruptive. it is not a deterrant except to children already less prone to repeating the offense.
i was never spanked and my children were never spanked.
G-D knows at times i questioned my beliefs but i had already ladi the groundwork to ensure good behaviour. That begins in infancy. If a teacher or school employee had ever touched one of my children my anger would know no limits.
By the way Chillaa we agree fully about teaching and how important the other elements in a childs life help predict success or failure. Shalom
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post #37 of 39 Old 09-30-2012, 02:04 AM
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I voted undecided. If the school did not allow drugs like ritalin, sent kids home for several days as a punishment, had and enforced a dress code, and had the usual stay after school and do chore "x" as punishment for so-so offenses...I might consider agreeing w it. Otherwise, what would be the point?

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post #38 of 39 Old 09-30-2012, 12:52 PM
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My Dad went to a religious school that had corporal punishment, and he still admits freely that he was a terrible scholar.

I can only remember being smacked once when I was very wrong. I never needed a physical punishment to keep me in line.

It's not that one punishment works better than another, it's the individual.

I don't agree with corporal punishment without permission of the parents. I know if my teacher smacked me or otherwise tried to hurt me without my parent's permission, I would be angry and so would they!

I go to school five days a week. Trust me when I say that some people JUST. WON'T. LEARN. They refuse. They think it's "cool" to get bad grades. I asked one of those if their parents flipped when they saw his grades. He said yes, but he still didn't care. A possible solution might be finding a way to get those kids out of school, NOT corporal punishment.
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post #39 of 39 Old 09-30-2012, 01:03 PM
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When I was in school up until 1972 I think, we had the strap. I even got the strap when I was 8 or 9. I punched a much older boy (I was a puny girl) for whatever reason, but I made his jaw bleed & a teacher saw it. Yeah I sucker punched him, but that's the only way to get a hit in on a bigger kid that bugs you. The principal gave me the strap. If I were a principal & forced to strap someone else's kid, I would quit. By the way, if I ever track down that principal, I will be in jail for severe assault, I will curb stomp him. I have a feeling he died though, I cannot find him & believe me, I tried. If anyone were to punish my child, or now grandchild that is not the parent, they will be drinking out of a sippy cup due to a brain injury, no doubt!

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