This thread is turning into a very smelly diary of my own lol. Thank you all for input and encouragements.
Delfina - he would GLADLY cleanup anything. It's like a reward for him. Loves taking his diaper to the trashcan, closing door, wiping floor, picking up socks, putting laundry in basket. I'll try with asking him to cleanup but I have a feeling he might enjoy it.
Last time he pooped in the potty he desperately tried to pick it up (the poop!) and take it to the trashcan, so...
Saddlebag - we tried that but husband is a bit prude and his attempts were put to an end when kid tried to grab, uh,...what he considered a sprinkle :))
NorthernMama - yeah, we'll try again. I'll just hang in there.
I KNOW he can hold, I see him doing it, plus yesterday we spent most day out, and he was dry. Except when coming back to the house. Called MIL, advised for pants and everything
We started with pants +panties and I ended up with huge meltdowns. He immediately DEMANDS (lol) being changed, goes to sit on the potty (after....), even said out of the blue 2 ne words "peepee" and"potty". However, I can hardly get him dressed now, he noticed that clothes + pee = uncomfortable so he decided to ditch the clothes.
This is harder than those websites said it would be :))
I've made a list of pro and cons and so far pro's are winning....
He can hold for hours
Can say when he is wet or dirty
Can take off clothes (this is starting to be a con)
Is rather concerned about poops, searches for diapers to go into. When he went on the floor he tried to pickup and take to the garbage,
Screams bloody murder if seated on toilet seat
For pee, he just..goes! Even plays a little in it.
My nerves are stretching, but I'll just hang on a little more