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post #11 of 26 Old 05-10-2013, 11:18 AM
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I think that I clicked "Like" on everyone above.

I pulled my horses out of a very expensive gated community stable because NO ONE would control the kids...... nor some of the parents.
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post #12 of 26 Old 05-10-2013, 11:20 AM
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Oh, I do have a pile of granite... I'll have to keep that in mind.

ETA: I know what you mean Sereno. Courtesy and respect are two things very lacking in our society today. And I'm tired of it. I think I'm just going to start calling people on their abhorrent behavior. And I hope, that if I act poorly, someone calls me on it, as well.
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post #13 of 26 Old 05-10-2013, 11:40 AM
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If I ever treated any person or animal with disrespect in any setting, my parents would bust me with a belt, sell my horse, pickup, and any other possessions I had. They'd turn off my phone and I wouldn't have went anywhere except school and home. Of course, now I'm an adult and pay for my own things and my own horse.

I know that when I have kids, they'll have the same respectful fear that I have for my parents. Parents are there to teach their kids respect. When they ignore this disrespect and ABUSE, they fail as parents. Plus, these parents spend SO much money on the horses from boarding, lessons, and feed to vet care, farriers, and tack. Why would they let their children abuse that privilege? I don't get it. Sickening.
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post #14 of 26 Old 05-10-2013, 11:56 AM
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If a kid is willing to behave like that on a horse, they behave like that at home. It needs to be nipped in the bud - the day my kids ever throw a tantrum like you have described is the day I happily break the law and give their backsides a tanning. Not saying my kids are saints, but there is something incredibly annoying about ill mannered, rude children.

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post #15 of 26 Old 05-10-2013, 12:40 PM
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If my kids ever even "thought" about exhibiting that kind of behavior in private or in public, they would not be able to sit on a padded chair for awhile let alone a saddle! My kids are grown up now, and never did such things, they didn't have the heart or the mindset to unjustly punish animals for any reason or be rude in public.
OP, you stated this was a clinic, wasn't there a clinician there instructing? If there was, what were they doing when all of this was going on? If there wasn't, stay away from these "free for alls"!
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post #16 of 26 Old 05-10-2013, 05:23 PM
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In a case like this my issue would be with the committee who put on the gymkhana. Somebody did and that person should be accountable. Everyone gets in a big flap about charging people who sore TWH but what these kids are doing is just as bad. At one show I watched and listened to parental abuse by two teenage girls. Since the girls were loud quite a number heard this and were not impressed yet couldn't understand why the mother allowed it. Are parents afraid of the word 'No" that their darling may not live them?
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post #17 of 26 Old 05-10-2013, 06:30 PM
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Originally Posted by DancingArabian View Post
I don't know what he did but once I saw a soldier being punished by having to move a big stack of finder blocks from point a to point b. They were big enough that he had to carry them one at a time. He had to stack them a certain way. When he was done, his officer in charge came out, pushed the neat stack over and told him to do it again but this time to stack the at point a. He ended up doing it several times before they let him to to bed.
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This is most likely from the movie "The Last Castle" with Robert Redford portraying the soldier--General actually--a legend. The warden of the prison admires the General, but the General questions his methods from the beginning. The rock moving was a form of punishment for something that General Irwin did.

I have always been taught good sportsmanship, even as a child. If this has been me, my arse would have been black and blue. And I would hope that my coach would have been the first to me, yanking me off the horse. If not, hopefully my parents would have taken me out of that barn.

You probably have easily said something, but doing your own thing--and holding true to that--was just as good.

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post #18 of 26 Old 05-10-2013, 07:50 PM Thread Starter
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Originally Posted by waresbear View Post
OP, you stated this was a clinic, wasn't there a clinician there instructing? If there was, what were they doing when all of this was going on? If there wasn't, stay away from these "free for alls"!
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Two trainers were hosting it, one who I knew and who knew that I am in the process of training my horse and was doing this only to get him experience in these group settings, not so much because I plan on being a super star barrel racer. She, unfortunately, was off helping other students learn patterns in another arena.
The trainer who was watching all of this go down is new to our barn. This was my first time meeting her, but she seemed very focused on winning and times, yelling at girls to run home who didn't seem comfortable on their horse in a trot yet. She also yelled at me to run home, and told me I should use my crop to smack my horse because he felt uncomfortable keeping his gait around the barrel and would resort to a flat walk (my horse spends almost all of his time on the trail. We do arena work, but mostly stay on the fence, and haven't even cantered in an arena). When I explained to her that my horse was new under saddle, she basically gave me a dirty look and continued to scream "RUN HOME!" during each one of my runs. She had some of her girls there, who were great riders and VERY fast, but I personally didn't fancy her training style of this type of open clinic (seemed more to me like how you'd train serious racers than people interested in trying the sport). In short, she watched all of this happen and didn't say a word, but the trainer I know did tell a girl to stop lunging the older mare I discussed when she saw her dripping in sweat.

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post #19 of 26 Old 06-01-2013, 09:59 PM
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My daughter is currently in training for carrying the flags and performing routines in rodeos. They only have practice every other Sunday, and it always starts late in the afternoon, though, and since we live in the SW, we are now talking temps of 90-100+. Makes it hard on the kids and horses. The teacher has very little control over the class, and there are too many "voices" during practice. It is hard for me to have respect for anything she might be teaching the kids since she won't make them listen. She also starts each routine at a different spot each practice and usually at a trot or canter, so they cannot learn the steps before she has them trying it at a run. I think at the beginning of each class, after everyone has done a warm up, that the class needs to do the routine at a walk, and if it is done perfectly, then at a trot... etc. But that's just me.
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post #20 of 26 Old 06-02-2013, 03:19 AM
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I use to run a very busy riding school and often had 30 children about the place - livery owners and riders who stayed to 'help'
I told parents that as I was acting as an unpaid babysitter my rules went and if they did not like it then to let their children ride and then collect them and take them home!

I would not tolerate ill manners, bad language or cheek. I also did not like tell tales!
The children knew the limits, there was plenty of fun and masses of laughter, water fights, poop fights and practical jokes but within the limits.

They all knew that their ponies came first and any disregard or blaming the animals was not tolerated and a punishment was awarded to them.

I agree that organisers of such events should have stewards around that stop this sort of thing happening and if a parent complains about their 'darling' they are sent home.
Better still, if the parents want to complain about their child being reprimanded they have to put down a deposit - a substantial sum, and if the punishment is upheld they loose it!
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