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post #81 of 94 Old 10-19-2012, 02:50 PM
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Why is it that all these skinny minnies that weigh 110 lb wet through ride like a sack of potatoes with no balance or skill, whilst all those curvy people of 250lb or more, ride so light and balanced? I keep hearing about it. What about medium weight people like me?
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Why is it that all these skinny minnies that weigh 110 lb wet through ride like a sack of potatoes with no balance or skill
Really All of them?

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whilst all those curvy people of 250lb or more, ride so light and balanced? I keep hearing about it.
Again, Really all of them?

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What about medium weight people like me?
I guess if you are in between, you ride like a light sack of potatoes?


Any way you look at it, you are generalizing far too much

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Why is it that all these skinny minnies that weigh 110 lb wet through ride like a sack of potatoes with no balance or skill, whilst all those curvy people of 250lb or more, ride so light and balanced? I keep hearing about it. What about medium weight people like me?
Where do you see ALL in anything that was written? I believe the word 'some' was used. Hyperbole much?

For someone who's supposedly a medium weight rider, you seem to have a real hate on for people who don't fit your idealized version of what constitutes a 'real rider'.
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Where do you see ALL in anything that was written? I believe the word 'some' was used. Hyperbole much?

For someone who's supposedly a medium weight rider, you seem to have a real hate on for people who don't fit your idealized version of what constitutes a 'real rider'.
I don't hate anyone. It is up to each individual whether they are overweight or not. They don't offend me in any way. The only thing I dislike is people who choose inappropriate horses to carry their weight. Skinny 14hh ponies or thoroughbreds carrying in excess of 250 lbs, for example.

My comment was made because almost every obese rider I have come across says they ride light. And it appears there is a misconception out there that the skinny riders all seem to ride like a bag of poop. It is the impression I am getting.
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Really All of them?

Again, Really all of them?



I guess if you are in between, you ride like a light sack of potatoes?


Any way you look at it, you are generalizing far too much

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It is just the impression people are giving me. It seems that almost every heavy rider I come across says they ride light and that they would rather someone like them ride their horse than a skinny person who rides like a bag of poop.

What I actually think is that there are probably just as many heavy riders that ride like a bag of poop than there are skinny riders. And at the end of the day you weigh what you weigh. You cannot feel any lighter, but you can sure as h*ll feel heavier. Whatever weight you are.
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Just wanted to add that I would be equally upset by a skinny 110lb woman riding a miniature.
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You could just believe that people who ride regularly generally have good intentions. I'm pretty darn positive that any overweight rider has an inkling that they are overweight. We tend to be rather self-conscious about things like that. Let us deal with it ourselves.
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You could just believe that people who ride regularly generally have good intentions. I'm pretty darn positive that any overweight rider has an inkling that they are overweight. We tend to be rather self-conscious about things like that. Let us deal with it ourselves.
I don't have a problem with overweight people. I struggle to keep my own weight down. The majority of plus sized riders here are appropriately horsed. But I was shocked by a small minority of the photographs showing very very heavy people riding horses and ponies that are just not up to weight and should be carrying no more than 150 lbs, but are being asked to arry twice that. I also think there does come a time where someone is just too heavy to ride. Again this is a small minority. So probably most if not all who have replied to this thread are probably absolutely fine. Sadly, it is often those that are most concerned that they may be too heavy that are fine, and those who are grossly overweight for their horse that are oblivious.
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Of course a horse CAN carry over 250 lbs. I don't think that is the question. You have to read what Dr. Bennett writes within the intended context.She uses her horses. An occasional ride is far different from daily schooling. I think we can all appreciate that. She is writing under the assumption that all horses are used frequently for whatever discipline. She isn't referring to the 10 minute once a month rider (which is probably worse than one who rides more frequently). Any horse that carries over 250 lbs for any amount of time is going to sustain some type of damage/injury/strain. Is that damage/injury/strain going to be immediately obvious or will it be a "silent" injury that worsens over time? Who knows. That is the crux of what is being offered.

She is postulating that no horse should carry over 250 lbs in an effort to keep the horse healthy and sound for its lifetime. Can they carry over 250? Yes. Should they? No - not if you want them to be usable their entire working lifetime. Are people going to use them to carry over 250 lbs? Yes. If that is your choice then be proactive and choose a weight carrying horse, condition the horse carefully, provide properly fitted tack, pay close attention to respiration, have frequent vet/chiro visits.

This has nothing to do with "fat-bashing" or discrimination. People ask this question all the time and a ton of anecdotal advice gets thrown at them. There is very little research on the actual topic. Dr. Bennett has spent a lifetime studying equines, if she isn't qualified to address the topic then I don't know who is. Until further studies are published, her educated guess is the most thought out, reasonable standard we have available.

Human beings have and always will do whatever they want despite what conventional wisdom tells them.
You know what happens when you assume things (or read between the lines), right? Well, I try to not do that. I take what people say or write as that's what they mean.

You put that she says "1. Total weight of rider plus tack must not exceed 250 lbs. There is no horse alive, of any breed, any build, anywhere, that can go more than a few minutes with more weight on its back than this." Where is the confusion about what she means? Point blank it means NO horse could handle it.

I'm sorry but if you quoted her correctly or accurately, I really have a hard time believing anything she says.
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I respect Dr. Deb Bennett in her research, but another article I've read by her also states that horses should ideally not be started under saddle until they're 7 years old.

I am currently around 300lbs (I had lost a bunch of weight last spring but thanks to a change in medications for some mental problems, along with losing my job, most of it is back, my highest has been 317, so I am not there and am working my way back down now, or at least trying.

I've struggled with my weight my entire life, and when you ride horses, it seems (at least in my own experience) to lead some self-loathing. When I see come onto forums such as these just to be rude...

Anyway, I've had my mare for 12 and a half years, she is about 15.3 and about 1200 lbs, I've ridden her at all weights between 210 and 317. I haven't ridden her lately, not because of my weight gain, but because we moved barns twice this month (long story) and two barns ago I believe somebody fed her my entire ration of 50lbs of oats because I put it in my bin the night before, it was gone the day we left, nowhere in sight, and she was colicy and has been feeling icky since and I'm treating her for ulcers. At any rate, I have never had to treat her for anything beyond what horses who have lighter riders who do the same sports I've done (eventing, jumpers, dressage, and right now just trail riding cause new barn has 30+acres of private trails and I can't WAIT to explore).

My gelding I have ridden only once since last April. I had him leased, and when he came back he was sore. I finally was able to get his chiropractor out and it turned out to be his pelvis was stuck in extension, most likely from a pasture accident 6-12 months ago. Poor buddy! Anyway she said "you should try some cattle work with him" and I was like "oh, because western saddles distribute weight better?" and she looked at me like I was crazy and said "no, because it's so much fun and he's such a cool horse" and she said I was crazy not to ride him that I'm very mindful of saddle fit, riding, everything else. I haven't yet, but I will.

I'm recovering from a concussion (not horse related, you think my 1200lb horses can do damage, my 40lb blue heeler x ran into me this week and sprained my knee and pushed me down so I knocked myself out on my parent's bed frame). I am doing a lot of in-hand work, and it's fun too, but I can't wait to get back in the saddle.

My goal is to not be a 300lb sack o' taters, I take lessons and have a good trainer who helps me a lot. Sometimes I fall back into my old habits (my mare is hot and I get bracy at shows and so does she) but we can have nice, soft rides too :) My trainer's daughter (who is like a sister to me, they both are) loves to ride my mare too, she is good with hot horses because she grew up on the back of her mom's OTTB.

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