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    04-28-2012, 10:07 AM
  #11
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Originally Posted by sirgalahadkem    
The problem with the lap band is that you can eat through it. It's very easy to cheat because you take something like a milk shake and the quantity is not stopped by the band at all! Both of my sisters had the full Roux-En-Y gastric bypass (google it if you don't know what it is) and lost 200+ pounds! I've been trying to get my doctor to let me do the surgery since I'm diabetic and very arthritic at 30. She thinks I'm doing well enough without the surgery but I don't feel I am. I can't exercise due to old back and knee injuries (I fight with her all the time about riding and have promised never to ride english, saddleseat, or bareback...) besides walking and even that I can't get motivated enough to do without having a walking buddy. Sadly, All my friends are on the other side of the state since I moved and I just have a hard time making friends where I live now... mainly because I hate it there. There's a newer procedure out now called Sleeve Gastrectomy. This is where they shrink your stomach but do not re-route your intestines. Some doctors are saying it's a cure for diabetes but it's not because you need the "bypass" of the other surgery to cure type II diabetes since the part that is bypassed is the part of your intestine that absorbs and routes sugar through your system. I'm probably just rambling to most of you but I hope this helps at least one person!
I have news for you..you can eat through the RnY too. Not EVERY patient that has it experiences problems with eating sugary foods. Lap band most CERTAINLY limits your quantity. I didn't go with RnY for a few reasons, but mostly because I didn't like the idea of part of my stomach being stapled off and that it is pretty much unreversable if there are problems. Also, it is a MUCH more dangerous procedure than lap band. Ck out the mortality rates for both. Of course it is up to each individual's decision, and each surgery carries its own risks and rules you must follow. DO your own research and find which is best for you, if you decide to go this route. Good luck!
     
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    04-28-2012, 07:55 PM
  #12
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Originally Posted by WyldBlu    
I have news for you..you can eat through the RnY too. Not EVERY patient that has it experiences problems with eating sugary foods. Lap band most CERTAINLY limits your quantity. I didn't go with RnY for a few reasons, but mostly because I didn't like the idea of part of my stomach being stapled off and that it is pretty much unreversable if there are problems. Also, it is a MUCH more dangerous procedure than lap band. Ck out the mortality rates for both. Of course it is up to each individual's decision, and each surgery carries its own risks and rules you must follow. DO your own research and find which is best for you, if you decide to go this route. Good luck!
The lap band can't be done on some people. My sisters were 2 cases of that. BOTH were diabetic and over 400 pounds. They needed to lose the weight ASAP. Also, you can't eat through the RnY. Both sisters, again, tried and ended up in the ER every time. Now my older sister is pregnant and can't even eat enough for her and the baby. I have to shave her head every weekend because she's losing hair due to malnourishment. She doesn't get sick from eating too much, she physically can't. Even liquids. She was in the ER last night for dehydration and false labor due to dehydration because she literally can't eat and drink enough even though she desperately wants to and needs to.
     
    04-28-2012, 08:14 PM
  #13
Trained
I have to agree with Joe, get a personal trainer & a dietitian. I guarantee you if you commit to it, you'll feel & look much better than having a surgery. For the life of me, I would try my ****edest not to go under the knife when there was a healthy & cheaper alternative. You just need some help getting on the right path, once you are on that journey, the rewards are much greater than the sacrifices.
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    04-29-2012, 10:25 AM
  #14
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Originally Posted by sirgalahadkem    
The lap band can't be done on some people. My sisters were 2 cases of that. BOTH were diabetic and over 400 pounds. They needed to lose the weight ASAP. Also, you can't eat through the RnY. Both sisters, again, tried and ended up in the ER every time. Now my older sister is pregnant and can't even eat enough for her and the baby. I have to shave her head every weekend because she's losing hair due to malnourishment. She doesn't get sick from eating too much, she physically can't. Even liquids. She was in the ER last night for dehydration and false labor due to dehydration because she literally can't eat and drink enough even though she desperately wants to and needs to.
Well I certainly don't want to turn this into a debate on which surgery is better, however I have 3 friends right now who got the RnY and would beg to differ with you about eating through it. Two do not have any "dumping syndrome" at all if they eat high sugar items, not all patients get sick or suffer any ill effects. One gets the dumping syndrome, but not to the extent to really dissuade her bad habit. The problems you mention, regarding malnourishen is the other reason I chose not to go the RnY route. That is not an issue with lap band. Although every surgery has its risks, lap band is far less risky than RnY. But whatever you chose to do OP, do your own research. Google both surgeries, weigh the risks and results for yourself. It's true that lap band AND RnY are not for everyone, and it is a HIGHLY personal decision. I lost 130 lbs in 18 mos. So, lap band also provides a quicker loss. But again, it is strictly between the patient and doctor to decide which is best for each individual.
On a side note, for people who are suggesting merely eating right and exercising will fix the problem, for some people, this is not reasonable. At some point, morbidly obese people cannot exercise enough, or are even able to, to make a difference. Getting surgery, for most of us, is a last ditch effort to save our lives. Perhaps early on in our destructive behavior, this would have been productive advise, however, as there are MANY underlying issues as to why we overeat, and/or eat the wrong things, this is not a cure all. Please try not to judge until you walk a mile in our shoes.
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    04-29-2012, 10:42 PM
  #15
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Correct me if I am wrong, but I thought morbidly obese people couldn't get surgery until they lost a certain amount of weight? Also I am pretty certain they cannot manage riding a horse. Sorry, I assumed the person inquired about weight loss surgery was an equestrian, but I didn't factor in fatal issues to change that. I apologize.
     
    04-29-2012, 11:05 PM
  #16
Yearling
As one who is in a healthcare related business, I understand most of the issues around whether to get the surgery. My strong advice is to put the surgeon on the spot with questions. You would not buy a horse without a pre-purchase exam - you should not hire a surgeon without a pre-surgical evaluation of his/her experience, successes and failures. By failures, I mean surgeries that had complications, postop infections, had to be revised/taken down, and/or patients who regained the weight. I would also ask how many patients died within a year of the surgery - THIS IS PART OF THE RISK and it happens, particularly for morbidly obese patients. A very simple question to ask is, "How many of these have you done in your career, and how many in the last year?" A great quality indicator is simple volume - the more experience/practice, the better. I would and have walked away from surgeons who would not provide at least a count of how many procedures they have done recently.

Also, part of lap banding and other procedures is patient support - there is a long process involved and the surgeon and his team should be there for the patient for a long time afterward. One of the best surgeons in KC provides counseling and training of patients both before and afterward, which contributes to his good outcomes.
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    04-29-2012, 11:08 PM
  #17
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Originally Posted by waresbear    
Correct me if I am wrong, but I thought morbidly obese people couldn't get surgery until they lost a certain amount of weight? Also I am pretty certain they cannot manage riding a horse. Sorry, I assumed the person inquired about weight loss surgery was an equestrian, but I didn't factor in fatal issues to change that. I apologize.
Hi,

Weight loss surgery is generally intended for morbidly obese people (100+ lbs more then is considered healthy). In many cases the surgery is the last hope some people have to losing weight. When I had it done, I had to show all the other methods I tried to lose weight first. Then I had to go through a battery of tests, including a psychological evaluation. THEN I had to fight my insurance company because when I had it done, it was still considered experimental in the USA. That is not the case any more however.
What a lot of people fail to understand is that weight loss surgery is not "the easy way out", as I was told many times. There is nothing easy about it. However, even if it were, does that make the weight loss any less valid? Sorry...got on my soap box for a sec. :).
I rode my gelding until I got too large to do that not to mention his poor back would have suffered greatly! At that point though, just walking to my car in the driveway made me out of breath, so riding was completely out of the question too. I still worked with the horses, but from the ground and in only short bursts of time. It was frustrating and depressing. Wt loss surgery gave me my life back....and the ability to ride again.
It is something I do NOT regret and would do again if I had to do it over again.

-Blu-
     
    05-23-2012, 12:00 PM
  #18
Foal
I had Roun-en-Y gastric bypass at 60 !!! After years of struggling with my weight - sad I did not do it much earlier .... I rode my horse and endured comments like " That horse should be riding you !!"- actual comment yelled at me on a ride . Also " Oh ! I did'nt realize you ACTUALLY RODE YOUR HORSE ." by a snotty neighbour .
These type surgerys are under study as a CURE for diabetes type II .... iTS NOT A INSTANT FIX ... you have about one year to change your life style and get healthy eating habits. After that you will regain if bad habits return . Your insurance mandates what you have to do to have the surgery - mine required a psych eval and 6 months of Registered Nutritionist counciling pre-op . The newer procedures are great ... it is major surgery and people do have major complications sometimes - but I would still do it again . I went from 300 lbs to 140 and almost no back and knee pain . Pre-op I hurt every day and life was getting to be all about how to not hurt that day . Now off all meds and my balance in the saddle is much improved ... yea Life .
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    05-23-2012, 12:24 PM
  #19
Foal
Several people mentioned this, but I wanted to call it out specifically. For long term success you need support and be able to change habits. I know that the manufacturer of the Realize band actually helps provide a support structure for patients. They have a website called bariatricedge.com

If your doctor is not supportive of this, and this is what you want for yourself, find another doctor. Websites like bariatricedge.com also have locator tools to find doctors in your area. It's a good way to start learning about the pros and cons, understanding insurance coverage, and again building that support to continue success long term.

I think the health benefits for those who need this type of procedure are immense. The joint pain and issues you mentioned are definitely affected by your weight. The amount of health issues that are related to obesity goes well beyond diabetes. Just have a clear understanding of the risks and choose your doctor carefully!!! Ladytrails is very correct in what you should be asking. You want a very experienced, high volume doctor with low complication rates. Check out their ratings on healthgrades, look at where they went to school. Especially good if they were fellowship trained in this specialty.
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    06-03-2012, 11:28 PM
  #20
Showing
In my home town a married couple had gastric bypass. She was heavy because as a young girl her mother pushed her to eat or act insulted when she tried to refuse something. She married a fellow with type !! Diabetes and over time he became quite heavy because of his medications. So many are also treated for high blood pressure as well. As he got heavier his diabetes became more difficult to control. He was in a lose/lose situation. In Canada one has to lose a predecided amount of weight prior to the surgery. She lost 50lbs. Her knees were giving out so walking wasn't an option. He lost 75. After the surgery both began to lose. Even with less weight she still couldn't walk far. He took up walking and was doing 10 mi daily. Their weights have settled, she is another 50 lbs lighter and he about a hundred and amost immediately he was off insulin and is taking Medformin and feeling great.
     

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