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post #11 of 39 Old 12-10-2011, 10:16 PM Thread Starter
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Eliz,

No way are you too heavy for that horse. NO way. So that is not the issue.
However, you say he stands for the trainer to mount? If so, then I think it's more that your horse anticipates your way of riding him in a different way than he does either an unknown rider or your trainer, as a rider.
Do your get on and then "gung ho" immediately? What is your relationship with him once in the saddle? Is he antsy under saddle, too?The mounting problem is something to address as an important training issue. There ares just scads of threads on mounting issues here, so take a look.

Thank you. I posted a thread a month or so ago asking for advice on the matter. (Before I thought it was my weight) And tried absolutely everything mentioned.

I never give up with him. But its just not improving. Almost digressing.


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post #12 of 39 Old 12-10-2011, 10:17 PM
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Mselizabeth, are you looking for advice on how to get your horse to stand will being mounted?
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Mselizabeth, are you looking for advice on how to get your horse to stand will being mounted?

Now that my weight has apparently been ruled out, yes I am.


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post #14 of 39 Old 12-10-2011, 10:23 PM
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Ok, here's how I train a horse to stand for mounting. Lead him up to the mounting block. If he dances around, moves, you move him back, do not attempt to mount him until he stands. Maybe take a while, but you get him to stand, right where you want him. Then when he is standing, get on the mounting block, if he moves away, get off the block & move him right back and he has to stand again. It continues on like this until he stands for the whole mounting process. Even if you put your foot in the stirrup & he move, get off & move him back. This process works. Training horses isn't difficult so much as it's time consuming, doing the same thing, over & over.
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I agree with tiny, you're not too heavy for him. I think he probably is anticipating the pull on his withers or girth, especially if you have to use the horn of the western saddle to help pull yourself up. (I'm short, old, no upper body strength and used to have a really tall horse, and this was our problem, too.) So, it may not be hurting him but he might not like it. He has to learn to stand still so that you can show him that mounting from the block is a good thing. With my former tall horse, after I finally got in the saddle she got a cookie if she stood still before & after mounting, and she eventually got better.

I still think you could try Cinny's idea with the round arena rail on one side and the block on the other side...at least he couldn't move away sidepassing and all you'd have to do is forward and backward control.
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Ok, here's how I train a horse to stand for mounting. Lead him up to the mounting block. If he dances around, moves, you move him back, do not attempt to mount him until he stands. Maybe take a while, but you get him to stand, right where you want him. Then when he is standing, get on the mounting block, if he moves away, get off the block & move him right back and he has to stand again. It continues on like this until he stands for the whole mounting process. Even if you put your foot in the stirrup & he move, get off & move him back. This process works. Training horses isn't difficult so much as it's time consuming, doing the same thing, over & over.
I've spent over 20 minutes doing exactly what you've said. The more I do it, the more worked up he gets. Usually by that time someone realizes my distress and holds him. I'm about ready to hire an animal behaviorist or something ridiculous like that.


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I agree with tiny, you're not too heavy for him. I think he probably is anticipating the pull on his withers or girth, especially if you have to use the horn of the western saddle to help pull yourself up. (I'm short, old, no upper body strength and used to have a really tall horse, and this was our problem, too.) So, it may not be hurting him but he might not like it. He has to learn to stand still so that you can show him that mounting from the block is a good thing. With my former tall horse, after I finally got in the saddle she got a cookie if she stood still before & after mounting, and she eventually got better.

I still think you could try Cinny's idea with the round arena rail on one side and the block on the other side...at least he couldn't move away sidepassing and all you'd have to do is forward and backward control.

I don't use the saddle horn, as I am used to english. I do pull on his mane, if I mount from the ground though. I suppose I should probably stop that (but what else am I supposed to pull with?)

I'm apprehensive about using treats. Because 1. He is pushy. He will knock me down for a treat. 2. I don't want him to chip his teeth on the bit


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If he is getting more worked up, something is wrong, either with the horse or yourself. Get someone else to work with him for a bit.
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I don't use the saddle horn, as I am used to english. I do pull on his mane, if I mount from the ground though. I suppose I should probably stop that (but what else am I supposed to pull with?)

I'm apprehensive about using treats. Because 1. He is pushy. He will knock me down for a treat. 2. I don't want him to chip his teeth on the bit
I don't blame you about the treats decision. So your choices are to give him a positive reward if he stands still at the block, or to make him work if he doesn't stand still. I haven't read all the ideas at the other thread. However, I'll throw one last idea out here. The positive reward might be that you leave him alone if he stands still...just let him know he's good, then be quiet and stand there and let him be. Or, you can do something he likes, like scratch his favorite place. I think it depends on the horse and what motivates him.

My young gelding came out of training with an attitude from some pain issues across his withers and didn't like being mounted as a result, even after he was healed. I just stood on the block and when he stood still I scratched his rump and under his mane, both places that he adores being scratched. Sometimes that's all I did, sometimes I actually got in the saddle and kept on scratching after mounting. But...to get to that point, we had to start over on the standing-to-be-mounted-at-the-block lesson.
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Hell, I'm 5'2'' and 103lbs and my horse shies away from me when I'm mounting because I'm the only one who ever actually makes him get off his fat butt and work And for the record, I can't mount worth a ****, due to my vertically challenged-ness (I can't jump xD) and even though I don't "Plop" either, I'm not a little feather by any means.

I highly doubt your horse is having trouble with you. I've seen tiny little ponies carry a lot more weight than what your TB is carrying - Which isn't even THAT bad. ;D
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Pssh.I didn't pick up the wrong lead
It's called a counter canter...
...A very advanced maneuver.
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