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post #21 of 39 Old 12-10-2011, 10:55 PM
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I'm 130 lbs, and my gelding is about 14 hands and built like a TANK. He could easily carry three times my weight. And he will still try to jig around when I get into the saddle, western or english. So does my 15 hand gelding, so does my mom's (EXTREMELY undisciplined and rude) mare. All of them are good, strong, stocky horses who could easily pack 300 lbs. I've only ever seen one horse that looks weak enough to not be able to carry more than 150 lbs, and that was just being safe because of a VERY weak body type.
I know my horses are healthy, etc. They do that because I spoil them, and it doesn't really bother me because when I want them to quit, they listen.
What do you do when you get on? I think this is just him misbehaving for you.
I would analyze what YOU do, then what your trainer, who he stands for, does. See if there's a difference, because I think that's it. He's being spunky with you.
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post #22 of 39 Old 12-13-2011, 01:49 PM
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It doesnt sound like your weight, it sounds like your horses is testing you because he/she know thecan get away with it.

Try to be much more firm with your horse at the mounting block. When you tell the horse to stand, they have NO other choice but to stand quietly!!!!!!!


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post #23 of 39 Old 12-13-2011, 02:10 PM
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Here's an exercise that WILL teach anybody to mount correctly. You will need a wooden rail fence. Mount the fence. Do it over and over. If you're mounting the fence wrong you will pull yourself up every time with your arms. If you're doing it correctly, you will position your hip close to the fence, step onto the 2nd rail with your left foot, REALLY bend your left knee, bounce 3 times and be able to stand with both feet together before you swing your leg over the top rail and sit gently.
You see your trajectory is wrong, and that's the problem. You think you are looking to put your body on the horse's body by stepping up and over hiim. Instead, you have to launch your body, using the left knee as your spring, to go 2:00 to the horse's 12:00--it's a 30 degree angle.
BTW, the fence is VERY forgiving! lol
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post #24 of 39 Old 12-13-2011, 02:33 PM
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The thing that finally taught my mare to stand for mounting (she used to pretty much freak out anytime someone tried to get one) was I left her halter+lead rope on under her bridle, then hooked the reins on the saddle horn, took her to where I was going to mount at, and tried to get on.
If (when) she moved, I immediately set her away from me at a super fast trot, encouraging her on with my right hand and holding the lead rope with my left hand. Then, I'd ask her to stop.
If she stopped immediately, I tried to get on again (really, at first, all it took was me bouncing on the ground to get her to move off), and repeated this whole procedure if she moved when I went to get on again.
If she didn't stop immediately when I told her to, I'd keep pushing her on until she stopped as soon as I told her to.

At first, I tried this just out in her field but it made no impression on her. Then, I tried it on a gravel road and almost immediately she was like "Oh shoot, girl! Don't make me run on this gravel!" and she learned very quickly to stay put for mounting. I didn't stop having her halter (once I got on I liked to unclip the lead rope and leave it over the fence or whatever) on her for mounting until she was 100% at standing to be mounted. Now that she has this skill, I can get on from anywhere and expected her to be still but it was definitely a work in progress for a while!

I found that with Lacey, forcing her to stand still just got her more worked up and frantic about the whole situation. Making her move was what she wanted so I just made what she thought she wanted, not what she really wanted.
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post #25 of 39 Old 12-13-2011, 07:19 PM
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I'm thinking you are making too much of a big deal out of it and taking to long.
I have seen people do this:
Slowely working way back to the side of horse, flinching every time the horse moves, slowly putting one foot in stirrup, standing there and looking up with one foot in stirrup looking at horse seeing if he is gonna move, dance around with foot in stirrup and one on ground when horse does move, or pull it out and start over. The instant my foot hits the stirrup I am pretty much up and over.
Oh and stop giving him treats until you have established leadership. He doesnt look at it as you gave him treats, he sees it as he took them from you.
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post #26 of 39 Old 12-13-2011, 07:31 PM
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I have a new horse had her nearly 2 weeks has taken me this long that I can now mount her from the block without her cantering off!! just keep persisting to start with had someone hold her for me it just took a while for her to settle in about 5 days ago was excited could quickly get on with her cantering off as I got on but got on without her being held for me.. probably not the same situation but if you persist with the situation it will get better I promise xx
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post #27 of 39 Old 12-13-2011, 08:20 PM
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I'm 5'7", 220lbs and ride a 15.2h mare..I'm the only one she'll stand for to mount. So, I'm going to say it has absolutely nothing to do with your weight.

But, I did two different things when working on her standing, because she got away with spinning circles and taking off as soon as your foot was in the stirrup.
The first thing I started with, was just getting her to stand and let me drop her lead/reins. Then we progressed to dropping the reins/lead and walking around her body close enough to rub my hand as I went. Then I started gradually moving outward to the point of where I'd take a lap around the arena with her standing in the middle. Then the mounting process started. It went rather quickly from putting foot in stirrup, leaning across the saddle, swinging all the way up and sitting, and then swinging off the other side (or back down on that side). I (and Drew for the first while where he was helping me with her) did a lot of "jumping" over her basically.

Occasionally we'll have some mounting issues, and we'll just do the same exercise more fast-paced. If she has a particularly horrid attitude that day, the dressage whip will come out and we'll just work on standing in-hand for the first bit until she can manage that. If she moved, the leg she moved got whacked with the whip. Another leg moved, she got whacked on that one. After she stood for a decent amount of time with that, I'd go back to the first, "nicer" way of working with her on it.
We rarely have to have a "Come to God" meeting anymore. I think the last time we did was when someone else rode her and let her fidget around. I'm glad we don't have too many of those anymore, because they seem to be time consuming, lol.

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post #28 of 39 Old 12-18-2011, 12:39 AM
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My gelding has gotten into the habit of trying to walk off when I put a foot in the stirrup. I thought it was just me until my trainer got on him from the mounting block too and he did the same thing. She is tall and slender. He doesnt do it if someone mounts from the ground . Anyway what works for him is to hustle his butt around ( send him in a lunging circle at a fast trot) or make him back up fast. on the ground. He realized that it was too much work and standing still at the mounting block was a better idea. Maybe that would work for you as well.

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post #29 of 39 Old 12-30-2011, 10:09 AM
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My mare did this when I got her, I mount from a block....I'm "fluffy" and have bad knees. Once I got on, we stand until I say go. The issue for her (and many horses) is that she was allowed to move off immediately after the rider got on, I started making her stand after mounting until I cued her to move off. In the beginning it was a bit of a fight, but no matter what, she was not allowed to "leave" until she was still. She finally got it & will now stand to be mounted and stand quietly as long as I want until she gets permission to move.
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post #30 of 39 Old 12-30-2011, 10:13 AM
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I have not looked through all of the comments so forgive me if I am repeating something someone already said.

I do not think it has to do with you weight, although a smaller person can mount incorrectly and not bother the horse as much as someone bigger would.

I did notice a comment above recommending a mounting block and I also recommend that. It may just be the way you are mounting him that is the problem not the weight that is mounting him. Ask your trainer to watch you and see if she can give you any tips.
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