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        11-18-2012, 02:41 PM
      #61
    Trained
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    Originally Posted by Bluebird    
    Too much food = fat. Its not hormonal, medical condition or anything else apart from eating too much!
    In 99% of cases that is true, but there are people who do have genuine medical issues. I have just been told this morning that I should go for a blood test because I have all the signs of a hormone inbalance, and I have a hormone issue, not an fat issue.

    My first instinct is to say "Yeah right" my second, actually go and do the research, because if there is anything in it, then maybe I can get this diet to really work.
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        11-19-2012, 04:04 PM
      #62
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    Originally Posted by Bluebird    
    Too much food = fat. Its not hormonal, medical condition or anything else apart from eating too much! LOL.
    Doesn't really have anything to do with eating, it's just how fast or slow your metabolism is, and some people (such as me) do have medical conditions that prevent them from losing weight. I've always been overweight and my steady weight was 150 but I was put on medication to help my sleeping disorder that was misdiagnosed and gained 100 pounds and no matter what I do, it won't come off. I've been diagnosed with really severe PCOS and chronic Crohn's Disease that affects my digestive tract I'm on a special diet but the pain is still unbearable. I walk about 3 miles a day for exercise, but to no avail. I'm starting treatment in February for my PCOS to balance the hormones, lose weight, and hopefully get rid of the cysts on my ovaries. I envy people who are successful at losing weight.
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        11-19-2012, 05:31 PM
      #63
    Trained
    Food for the brain, not the stomach....
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    Obesity occurs when your body consumes more calories than it burns. In the past, many people thought that obesity was simply caused by overeating and under-exercising, resulting from a lack of will power and self-control. Although these are significant contributing factors, doctors recognize that obesity is a complex medical problem that involves genetic, environmental, behavioural, and social factors. All these factors play a role in determining a person's weight.
    Recent research shows that in some cases, certain genetic factors may cause the changes in appetite and fat metabolism that lead to obesity. For a person who is genetically prone to weight gain (e.g., has a lower metabolism) and who leads an inactive and unhealthy lifestyle, the risk of becoming obese is high.
    Although a person's genetic makeup may contribute to obesity, it's not the primary cause. Environmental and behavioural factors have a greater influence - consuming excess calories from high-fat foods and doing little or no daily physical activity over the long run will lead to weight gain. Psychological factors may also foster obesity. Low self-esteem, guilt, emotional stress, or trauma can lead to overeating as a means to cope with the problem.
    So again, the blanket statement does not apply to everyone, the world has become more sophisticated than that. That is not to say that most of us can't rectify the situation, it is just harder for some than others, and for a few it is darn near impossible.
         
        11-21-2012, 05:51 PM
      #64
    Foal
    I, for one, find it insensitive and ridiculous when people throw around things like - eat less, move more - or 'just burn more calories than you consume'. For some of us, sure, the weight is laziness. For some of us, it is genetic, medical related, etc. For some of us, it is a layer of emotional protection that we have carried for years to protect ourselves from intimacy and getting rid of it is a bit more to deal with in the head than in the body. I say this as someone who was inappropriately touched as a child by another child and who used my weight as as barrier of protection for myself for years. On top of that, I had to learn to love myself to learn how to take care of myself. You wouldn't tell someone who had a traumatizing psychological experience, or who is battling depression, etc, "how to get over it" like it is simple math and any idiot should be able to figure it out.

    That is my rant of the day.
         
        11-22-2012, 03:36 AM
      #65
    Green Broke
    Its easy to say lose weight. Some people have problems, and the weight just does not drop. Don't say exercise more, I walk, I have ten acres, I clean after dogs, poo and what ever they chewed apart , an orchard, horse pens to clean, water troughs to scrub, horses to brush. I don't over eat. I would love to get down to 165 , and at that weight I am not fat. I would never be a size 0 , my bones are bigger than that .
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        11-22-2012, 08:21 AM
      #66
    Foal
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    Originally Posted by stevenson    
    its easy to say lose weight. Some people have problems, and the weight just does not drop. Don't say exercise more, I walk, I have ten acres, I clean after dogs, poo and what ever they chewed apart , an orchard, horse pens to clean, water troughs to scrub, horses to brush. I don't over eat. I would love to get down to 165 , and at that weight I am not fat. I would never be a size 0 , my bones are bigger than that .
    There was an article written... I will have to find it.. it is a woman who is a plus sized fitness instructor and people think she is lying when she tells them what she is physically capable of doing because you clearly can't be fat and physically active. I walk 5-8 KM per day and ride twice a week, and I don't eat fried foods (I honestly can't think of the last time I had french fries!), etc, and it is a slow battle even then. Sure, if I stepped it up with more exercise, it might go a little faster - but people still don't believe me when I tell them what I DO.
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        12-12-2012, 06:24 PM
      #67
    Foal
    Awwwww bull butter people, start making efforts and stop making excuses.
         
        12-12-2012, 06:38 PM
      #68
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    Originally Posted by Stir crazy    
    Awwwww bull butter people, start making efforts and stop making excuses.
    Excuse me???
         
        12-12-2012, 06:44 PM
      #69
    Yearling
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Stir crazy    
    Awwwww bull butter people, start making efforts and stop making excuses.

         
        12-13-2012, 04:24 AM
      #70
    Weanling
    Just have to disagree with you about being overweight can be the result of genetics, medical conditions etc. This is part of my day job. The only 'medical' result is in the use of certain types of steroids or medication but they do not, in themselves, cause morbid obesity - severe weight gain. In majority of people who are overweight it is due purely to the amount of calories they consume and nothing to do with genetics no matter what you read in Newspapers or see on TV. The cause of excessive calorie consumption is where there are sensitivities. Seriously overweight people do have an 'illness' in the broadest terms and it is a psychological one or part of an underlying medical condition e.g. Bader-Lewis Syndrome, Cushings disease, PCOS, Diabetes which makes weight gain easy and weight loss hard. However, the cause of the weight gain is genuinely down to consumption of calories and nothing else. (Please note, I am not including weight caused by build up of excessive fluid as that is not classed as obesity). Anyone who is overweight, and I include myself, struggles on a daily basis with their body image. Overweight people have to put up with stigma, cruel and inappropriate comments and being told constantly "You're fat!" Rather than shaking people out of it, it tends to make people even more inward looking and the result is a vicious circle where you seek comfort and actually crave ...high fat/carbohydrate- cakes, chococlate, fries, fast food. You try to diet and what do you see on TV? Cookery programmes, the latest 'celebrity diet' whereby the 'celebrity' is already a stick insect and has the financial backing to employ a chef, weight trainer and if they are promotoing a specific diet, they get all the stuff for FREE! The whole 'fat fighters' issue makes me totally sick and socitey as a whole treat overweight people absolutely terribly making the process of losing weight for some people, almost impossible. All I will say is that "Do not judge other people...You do not know them or their story". To all of us out there who have a weight issue, we have to live with our own demons without other people adding to them.
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