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post #11 of 43 Old 08-09-2013, 10:20 PM
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I'd say no to him. From the looking at the pictures on my phone, his legs aren't particularly light on bone, but the rest of him is. Also, that saddle looks like it goes back too far on his back, but it might be the pictures. Don't buy a horse on what he MIGHT be, but what he is currently, unless you can support the horse in whatever the issue. You need a horse who can support your weight- no if, ands, or buts about it. He really can't support much of anything at his current weight and muscling.
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post #12 of 43 Old 08-09-2013, 10:39 PM
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that horse is fine, get him in shape and ride snot out of him, I rode a 16 hand walker for awhile my GF said I looked great on her, I'm taller but I'm 220lbs and bet Im not that far off you in weight. While you may "look" a bit outa sorts, that horse doesnt care. Not to mention, your weight is lower than mine, bet that makes a big difference to the horse. I would say you might need a bigger saddle, :) but you know who cares go have fun be happy love thyself.
Joe, I have to say your text was great. Very encouraging and extremely confirming.
Great Job!
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Joe, I have to say your text was great. Very encouraging and extremely confirming.
Great Job!

Thank you.. to the both of you! I think I just needed someone's positivity. I'm becoming more comfortable with my decision. Sometimes the biggest battle, is myself. I don't like what I see.. but I'm changing it every day.
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post #14 of 43 Old 08-09-2013, 11:35 PM
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Thank you.. to the both of you! I think I just needed someone's positivity. I'm becoming more comfortable with my decision. Sometimes the biggest battle, is myself. I don't like what I see.. but I'm changing it every day.
Im 6'5" 235 if you listen to most people, by the time you add my saddle and saddle bags full of drinks and snacks I'd have to ride a horse that weighs 1500 lbs.

Listen more to people like Joe, he knows his stuff!
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post #15 of 43 Old 08-10-2013, 12:27 AM
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I agree with every other poster who said this horse is not a good fit for you and that it's light in the bone. Hope that wasn't too negative for you
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post #16 of 43 Old 08-10-2013, 12:45 AM
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Im 6'5" 235 if you listen to most people, by the time you add my saddle and saddle bags full of drinks and snacks I'd have to ride a horse that weighs 1500 lbs.

Listen more to people like Joe, he knows his stuff!
It's not just about the weight, it's about how and where the weight is carried.

Someone tall, fit and built will likely be able to support their weight a lot better than someone who is shorter and rounder.

At 6'5'' and 235lbs, most horse can carry that. But 5' and 235lbs, many horse cannot. At your weight and height Irish Wake, you can support your own body weight and not be flumping down in the horse. Others, if you take weight alone, then it's much less so.

To the OP, I don't think a slender TB is the horse for you. It might cope, but you might well cause it problems. Why not accept what you are asking from the horse and choose something with more bone density?

It's a delicate topic, but I think you need to be fair to the horse.
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post #17 of 43 Old 08-10-2013, 12:48 AM
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I don't understand where some of you think that we're ragging on the OP for her size. That's not what is happening at all. I, and others, are simply pointing out the shortcomings of the horse for durability over the long haul. Yes he can bulk up some more and that will make him "look" better, but that won't change his long back or his light bones or, what appears to be on closer inspection of the pictures, his upright shoulder and possibly upright pasterns as well. His entire front end just looks structurally weak.

I'm not a fan of putting more than 30% on a horse of average fitness that has ideal conformation (that means that a well conformed QH that weighs a grand total of 1000 pounds...about average...can carry 300 pounds of tack and rider). Especially if the horse is going to be doing hard/stressful work like jumping.

If this horse truly has the conformation I suspect he does, I wouldn't suggest anyone buy him for jumping, regardless of their size. He just doesn't have good conformation, IMHO.

The good news is, in the video, the OP appears to be a light and fluid rider, which will greatly broaden the type and size of horses she can include in her search.

OP, it's not this horse's size that concerns me, it's his lack of good conformation. I worry about his soundness over the long haul.

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Is it me just being unhappy with myself.. or am I just too big for this horse too? .
Just from personal experience but if you have that thought anywhere in your mind then pass, because when it happens to me, that niggle keeps coming back. You have to be 100% in your own mind.
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post #19 of 43 Old 08-10-2013, 01:04 AM
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I don't understand where some of you think that we're ragging on the OP for her size. That's not what is happening at all.
My husband is 300lbs+, and it's not muscle. I love every inch of him, he's the best person I know.

However when talking about suitability, then this horse does not suit this rider.

It's not about some kind of hate campaign against heavier riders, it's about matching up good companions. We all have to consider that, does the horse do what we want? I am built like a rake, and have a lovely little horse, I don't know that he will meet my needs and goals, and that's just heartbreaking. But it's a decision we all go through, is this the right horse for me?
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that horse is fine, get him in shape and ride snot out of him, I rode a 16 hand walker for awhile my GF said I looked great on her, I'm taller but I'm 220lbs and bet Im not that far off you in weight. While you may "look" a bit outa sorts, that horse doesnt care. Not to mention, your weight is lower than mine, bet that makes a big difference to the horse. I would say you might need a bigger saddle, :) but you know who cares go have fun be happy love thyself.

"Ride the snot out of him", really?! That horse needs groceries, he is in poor condition, is fine boned, and is trying but doesn't look sure of what is on his back, look at his expression and ears. Joe4d, a good horse person would first look at the horse and have it's health and well being in mind, instead of themselves..with no top line, lacking muscle tone, no, a bigger saddle won't help, it is only going to sore the poor thing, and may even go so far as to say it could cause you even MORE problems down the road. So no, this dear horse IS NOT for you.

There is nothing wrong with being heavier, we all have some extra poundage to loose, but come on. It is about time we become honest with ourselves AND the horse were going to be riding and/or buying. Horses are very stoic animals, often times it is up to us riders to see and know the subtle hints of uncertainty and issues before the horse shouts it out by dumping us on the ground, wringing it's tail, wrinkling their nose, and bouncing around or other not so subtle clues.
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