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MySerenity 10-15-2011 04:07 PM

Sorry Buckskin people but I have a stupid color question...
 
:oops: Is a red dun a type of buckskin? What makes a buckskin a buckskin then?

This is what I think of when I think of buckskin...

http://www.ultimatehorsesite.com/colors/buckskin.html

FYI: I drool over this coloration

Red Duns are also very pretty but are they a "red" buckskin?

(I was an arab person in my previous life so we didn't have a lot of duns or buckskins in the PB world...)

Poseidon 10-15-2011 04:18 PM

Buckskins are bay + cream. The picture you posted is very much a buckskin.

Red duns are chestnut/sorrel + dun. Dun dilutes similarly to cream, which is what makes the chestnut color so light. (Bay duns look very similar to buckskins because of this.)

Verrrry different genes. :lol:

Neither dun nor cream exist in the Arab breed, so not a stupid question. :]

Gimme a second and I'll get a picture of a buckskin and a red dun standing next to each other (I conveniently happen to have a few. :D)

Poseidon 10-15-2011 04:23 PM

My buckskin and my friend's red dun:
http://a7.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphot..._2114255_n.jpg

http://a8.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphot..._5000873_n.jpg
http://a5.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphot..._3289073_n.jpg

I honestly don't blame you because this summer, I mistook that gelding for Abby all the time when they were out in their pasture. Their body color was very similar and he was a rather dark tail.

MySerenity 10-15-2011 05:04 PM

that's really helpful! The reason I asked in the first place was I'm looking to buy a red dun and they said she was ibha eligible so it confused me. Cute horses!
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Horsesdontlie 10-15-2011 05:06 PM

This is stupid ol' me asking, but I thought buckskins could NOT have white on them? They had to be solid.....Or is just just a registry thing?

Poseidon 10-15-2011 05:07 PM

Who said she was ineligible? The owners or the IBHA? Colors Eligible Red dun is listed as acceptable on the IBHA's website.

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Originally Posted by Horsesdontlie
This is stupid ol' me asking, but I thought buckskins could NOT have white on them? They had to be solid.....Or is just just a registry thing?

Definitely not true about any registry that I've ever heard of. Buckskin isn't any different than any other color and a rule that they cannot have white would be ridiculous. Unless you'd like to be the one to explain that to the annoyed face in my avatar that her blaze is unacceptable.

Horsesdontlie 10-15-2011 05:14 PM

Hmm I am rather unknowledgeable on the colors subject. But its what I had heard from somone, I thought thats why SBR Formula One was considered a Dunskin. Or is it merely pedigree and the lack of a creme gene? From what I understand he can't be both dun and buckskin....but they combine it anyways?

http://c23171.r71.cf1.rackcdn.com/2007_3678_11_3.jpg

Poseidon 10-15-2011 05:16 PM

Sure they can! SBR Formula One (I love him, by the way) is a buckskin with the dun gene or "dunskin". Hollywood Dun It was too.Dun can affect any color it wants to.

This is the best way I've heard horses with multiple layers of color genes (like a dunskin):
"Think of it as adding food coloring to water. If you drop blue food coloring into water, what color will the water turn? Blue! But what if you add yellow color to the blue water? There's no law against adding a second modifying color to the blue water, so do it! It then changes to green. You can keep on adding colors, and the water will keep changing for a couple more turns."

Horsesdontlie 10-15-2011 05:40 PM

He is adorable. xD I personally love buckskins/duns with white on them.

That makes sense. Thank you for answering. =)

Macslady 10-15-2011 06:09 PM

I hope to not sound stupid, but which causes the barring on the upper part of the leg and the stripe down they back? Is that the dun factor? My girl is gold with the barring, stripe down the back, would that make her a dunskin or is that a lighter color? I get so lost in all these color definitions.


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