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LoveTheSaddlebreds 10-20-2011 09:56 PM

Critique Potential Buy
I'm looking for a project, something that has potential. I want to event and do jumpers or hunters 3'-3'3" and maybe take to college. I found an ad I really liked and asked for more info and I'm a little concerned about a few things.

They said he has "green moments" and that he "falls int corners" and "needs light contact or he'll pull"

Here's the info I got:

His previous owner let him fall into the corners, something that he does not do nearly as bad, but he still does require a little bit of extra inside leg; if you are in his face and pulling on him he will eventually start to pull on you, so he is more of a soft-contact with the reins sort of horse that responds more to your seat. He gets a little excited jumping and is a little hard to pull up afterwards sometimes, but nothing bad, and he usually works out of it after a few minutes. If you're really in his face going up to a jump he resists your contact a little bit (which you can see in the one "hunter" video I have on my youtube account HJRider97). He's bold to jumps. Not crazy and uncontrollable or fast, just bold. Not in a bad way, just a this-horse-is-definitely-not-a-hunter way, lol. He really is the sort of horse you have to ride more than once because he needs time to adjust to you, and is going to test you the first time. He is just loaded with so much potential though. I highly suggest taking him on trial if you can see his potential, because once you take him home and ride him a few times he will be a completely different horse, and then you should be able to decide if he's the horse for you or not. This horse is not dangerous or difficult at all and once you figure him out he's super easy. He's never done anything wrong and has no buck, rear, bite, crib, pace, weave, etc. in him. He won't take off on you and he doesn't even really spook. He is just an all around great horse that needs someone willing to put some time into him.
When I was on AIRC I rode best on TBs that needed light contact. In fact, I took a horse that acted much like their description (only he most definitely had bucks in him!) to finals. So, I'm really good on thoroughbreds and riding with little contact, I've been told I look and ride best on those types of horses (I think with horses that need more help from the reins make me over think things). In fact, when I told my friend about what kind of rider he needed she said "that's so you." I'm worried about his mouth in the vids, though. He seems to be really fidgety and shakes it a lot. I understand he may not like contact, but the rider doesn't seem to be doing anything. He seems green still and loose in the front end over jumps, but over all I like him and he has great potential.

kaykat31 10-20-2011 10:55 PM

He jumps very flat & rides around unbalanced & much too on the forehand. Some of the jumping flat is that the rider sits back & then throws her body slightly to catch up & doesn't always have the best release, although how round he will ever jump is also questionable, correct position should help his legs square up some though. The balance issues just takes time and work, you should be able to fix the riding on the forehand/heaviness some, but especially if he is a OTTB, I don't know that you'll ever fully fix it. He's a nice mover, if you got him jumping rounder & to quit the mouth thing(I think if you followed the horses mouth with your hand, he'd quit the head shaking), he'd be more a hunter than a jumper. He's a nice horse, and could be quite nice, with lots of time & work.

Katze 10-20-2011 11:31 PM

I agree with most of what kaykat31 wrote, BUT I don't like his confo, or the way he moves at all, he looks butt high, and lightweight in the neck and chest area, could be just lacking muscle, or he's just a lightweight on the forend. Personally i'm sure you can find a "project" horse that looks and moves alot better.

LoveTheSaddlebreds 10-21-2011 12:46 PM

I asked for a confo pic and they sent me this. She said it was from when they first got him so it's not completely up to date. They're offering a really good deal for him adn his conformation doesn't look too bad to me. What do you guys think? Anything that stands out to you? (they said he has more muscle and weight now, but anything else?)

kaykat31 10-21-2011 07:58 PM

I'm not awesome at judging confo, except for our ponies that do modeling classes, we don't look at it too much. Our vet does point out risky points in the pre-purchease exams so I know alittle. Mostly, his front legs appear too far back & under him and I don't like his butt/hip muscling in that pic. When I said he moved as a nice hunter, I didn't mean a top A show hack winner, he just moves decently nice, but I personally have alot more O/F Hunter winners, than hack winners, most of mine are 4-7 in the hack classes, but looking closer, he could use more reach forward in his back legs, that might get better with dressage work & getting him off the forehand.

loveyourhorse 10-21-2011 10:11 PM

i know the girl selling this horse

LoveTheSaddlebreds 10-21-2011 10:13 PM


Originally Posted by loveyourhorse (Post 1208158)
i know the girl selling this horse

You do? Have you seen him in person??

LoveTheSaddlebreds 10-23-2011 09:56 AM

Bump? Anything else?

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