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sillyhorses 10-21-2011 11:35 AM

Feeding Fats/Oils - what do you use?
 
I'm contemplating having our feed store mix in some oil into our sweet feed for the winter (probably have them drop out some of the "sweet" additives). While I've fed oil as a top-dressing, I was curious to know what other owners do for specialty grain mixes? Or, alternately, if you feed oil, what do you feed, for what purpose (skin/coat or weight), and how much?

Also, what kind of results have you seen? If you are mixing it into your feed, what type of horse (stock/quarter, or leaner built like, thoroughbred/arabian), how much feed, weight of your horses before/after?

Thanks for sharing! I don't expect anybody to answer every question I've posed, but I am curious to see how people approach fats in their horse's diets! I look forward to everyone's responses :D

mls 10-21-2011 12:38 PM

We use Empower for weight gain. Works wonderfully.

Red Gate Farm 10-21-2011 12:40 PM

I put about 1/2 cup of sunflower oil into their feed if I see their coats looking a bit dry and scruffy in places. Since I've been feeding some milled flax seed since last spring, I haven't seen the dry/scruffy places.

Left Hand Percherons 10-24-2011 10:36 AM

Most mills start with a minimum of 1000# to do custom mixing. Could be as little as 500# or as much as a ton. If you can do that much, sit down with their nutritionist and have them formulate a mix for you that meets your needs. Most ingredients will be cheaper than bagged products so you're ahead in the end. It will run about $1 to bag your mix if you can't deal with the big totes. I have a high fat feed made and they add soybean oil to the mix. It is more expensive than the jugs from Costco/Sam's ($1.12 vs $.80 per #)but it helps to bind the ingredients when you're not adding molasses plus you don't have to fight with congealed oil.

MHFoundation Quarters 10-24-2011 11:09 AM

I only have one that gets any oil. It's my oldest and I add wheat germ oil to his mash, adds calories and keeps the mash from setting up hard before he gets it finished.

DutchFeather 10-24-2011 08:26 PM

My Belgian is on the EPSM Diet (High Fat/Low Carb)... He gets a low carb pellet and canola oil mixed in his grain along with free choice hay.

caseymyhorserocks 10-25-2011 10:31 PM

I am not a huge fan of oil- its not to great for them. I would recommend Cool Calories 100.

Left Hand Percherons 10-26-2011 12:53 PM

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Originally Posted by caseymyhorserocks (Post 1212099)
I am not a huge fan of oil- its not to great for them. I would recommend Cool Calories 100.

What's the evil of oil? Afterall, Cool Calories 100 is nothing more than dried vegetable oil plus some prevervative at 2-3X the cost. If you're blending a custom mix you need something like oils or molasses to bind all the additives you put into the blend, vit/mineral, salt, probiotics.., or they will all just sift to the bottom.

caseymyhorserocks 10-30-2011 06:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Left Hand Percherons (Post 1212541)
What's the evil of oil? Afterall, Cool Calories 100 is nothing more than dried vegetable oil plus some prevervative at 2-3X the cost. If you're blending a custom mix you need something like oils or molasses to bind all the additives you put into the blend, vit/mineral, salt, probiotics.., or they will all just sift to the bottom.

The dried vegetable oil from what I have heard, is supposed to be better, more balanced, for them than liquid oil. Of course, I am open to other things, and this may be wrong, but that is what I have heard, and until I hear something about how it is the same or better, that is just what I am going to believe. I posted that before I started my horse on Rice Bran, and now I would recommend Rice Bran for adding weight. I did once feed my horse Corn Oil as she was skinny, a long time ago before I was better educated, and it took about 5 weeks to gain weight. The Cool Calories 100 took about 2 weeks. If liquid and dry oil are the same unbalnced and such for horses, I would rather use Cool Calories 100, as from my experience it works faster, and therefore they don't have to have the oil as long. So maybe her forage got better quality and she gained weight because of that, but that is just what I think. Here is a link to a website that explains very well why oil is not to great for horses: Horses And Oil Don't Mix - Barnmice Equestrian Social Community
I hope I answered your question :wink:

Blondehorselover 11-01-2011 12:34 PM

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Originally Posted by mls (Post 1207752)
We use Empower for weight gain. Works wonderfully.


I've just started this for weight gain. How much do you feed and do you feed it with anything else?


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