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LovesMyDunnBoy 10-22-2011 11:21 AM

My horse is being a big brat!
 
I recently found the cantle of my saddle was pressing on my horse's withers. Well I fixed that by putting a folded blanket under my saddle and it worked. But I'm worried it may cause other pressurre points?


Now, for my original question. My mare always pins her ears when being cinched, maybe even act like she's going to bite. I always do it slow. She pins ears when I get on. And when I'm actually riding she tries to take my toes off! I bump thee other rein and she faces straight, but with a very pissy look on herr face. And refuses to go, unless I take the string of my saddlle and smack her butt a few times. any ideas? She also rroots her nose down soetimes....when trotting. I never bump her mouth
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Saskia 10-22-2011 01:12 PM

I'd definitely look at pain problems before presuming your horse is being a "brat". Putting a folded blanket under might help the situation, but it doesn't fix the problem of a poorly fitted saddle. Its best if you get a professional saddle fitter out to see what is going on with your saddle.

Also, if your horse has had a bad fitting saddle chances are her back is quite sore, so getting out a specialist, such as a chiropractor or a masseuse could really help.

I'd also look at getting her teeth done if you haven't already.

Obviously she has learned this behaviour, was she like that when you got her or has this developed? How long have you had her?

Personally, I'd look at some ground work, getting her to yield from pressure, teaching her that you are the boss, and teaching her what is expected from her. If you haven't already got a riding instructor perhaps you should look at getting one.

Just a note - the cantle is actually the back part of the saddle, not the front.

DuffyDuck 10-22-2011 01:36 PM

I agree with Saskia, you can't assume your horse is being a brat if there is a possibility she is in pain. I would suggest you have her back and saddle checked out ASAP.

Now, if she isn't in pain, then you need to address the issue. She seems to associate the saddle with pain from where it pinched her, so practise putting the saddle on and off, and lunge her in it so then she has no rider weight on her back.

But please please get her back and saddle checked before you do anything else!

LovesMyDunnBoy 10-22-2011 06:31 PM

Someone told me it was the cantle, that is why I said it haha. And she has been this way since I got her, I have only had her five months or so. She has been this way since I got her, and I know she is just being a butt because she did tiihthe previous owner, totally different sadddle, ad she does it bareback
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Golden Horse 10-22-2011 06:42 PM

Unless you have actually had her checked out for any pain issues you are still assuming that she is being a butt. A folded blanket is a short time fix for a saddle that doesn't fit, so start from getting her checked out to see IF she has any pain issues, then start working to fix things.

brackenbramley 10-22-2011 07:48 PM

You need to get the saddle and back checked maybe its been painful for a long time??????????? horses dont react for nothing

Saskia 10-22-2011 08:43 PM

Many people don't get their saddles fitted, so its very possible that the previous owner's saddle didn't fit either. The best thing is to address all sources of possible pain and then, when all that is corrected, fix her behaviour. Likely, her behaviour has been caused by discomfort and even if you remove that discomfort she will still act that way. Her behaviour just sounds like its been caused by discomfort, because to me, that isn't really typical bratty behaviour.

So check everything out, make sure she's fine, then look at working with her. You'd be surprised how often a poorly fitted saddle, or untreated back pain, leads to horses building incorrect muscles that makes correct riding quite difficult.

pintophile 10-22-2011 08:47 PM

It could be too that she's so used to being in pain that she's just anticipating it and is continuing the pain response. I agree with everyone else-a folded blanket will only do so much for a poorly fitting saddle.

Kayty 10-23-2011 02:41 AM

She's sore. If her saddle is already pressing on her withers, adding more layers under the saddle is still going to be putting pressure on her wither. Not only that, but by lifting the front of the saddle, you have changed the fit of the back and tree, so it is possible that she has now got other pressure points.
Get your saddle fitted by an accredited saddle fitter, get a chiro to your mare and give her a couple of weeks off, then a couple of weeks to realise that the saddle doesn't hurt anymore. THEN make the call on whether she's just being a brat or not. But my money is on her being sore.

LovesMyDunnBoy 10-23-2011 11:42 AM

The blanket brinngs the saddle off her withers, not just more padding under it. I'm not quite that dumb...what I think happened it my saddle pad haas smooshed ddown and if i got another pad, it would raise the entire saddle right.
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