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Golden Horse 10-25-2011 05:37 PM

Please can you cast a critical eye over this guy
 
I am at one of those turning points in my life, my horse needs and wants have changed, how I see my future has changed, to that end I have listed a lot of the horses I have hanging around here looking pretty.

This guy has caught my eye as being more in the direction that I would like to go, so please give him the once over, without my rose colored spectacles, and tell me what you see.

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2001 Percheron/Thoroughbred x Saddlebred
(Grade)
Standing at least 16.2 HH

Ben is a Big Black and BEAUTIFUL! Everyone notices this boy! He is absolutely stunning! Ben has incredible movement, big and flashy with great extension. His gaits are lofty and fluid. Ben is very athletic, sensitive and sensible. He has been saddle and bitted, and his training continues to progress. This horse has a great gentle soul, and is a great thinker. He is very smart, and very trainable. Finished and in the dressage ring, this boy will be INCREDIBLE! Or take him on and have the coolest pleasure horse around!

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Endiku 10-25-2011 05:56 PM

what exactly are you wanting him for, and are there any videos/conformation shots of him? what is his asking price? I honestly need more information in order to tell you anything.

Golden Horse 10-25-2011 06:04 PM

No conformation shots, have just asked if there are any videos.

As to what I want, low level local dressage, and something that is big nice moving, covering a lot of ground.

As to price, not saying just at the moment, I would be interested in how people value him just on the information that you have. The price doesn't change what he is, or what he is suitable for, and there is such a difference in pricing between Canada here, and south of the border, that it makes it a little difficult to compare

Endiku 10-25-2011 06:17 PM

Well he's defintately flashy, and looks like he has good bone and shoulder angles. That's about all I can say. I'd probably pay $900-$1,000 tops, considering that he's essentially an unbroke ten year old. That's even on the high end of what he'd fetch. Ofcourse, like you said, theres quite a difference between Texas and Canada. Our horse economy is beyond shot at the moment.

kywalkers2012 10-25-2011 07:18 PM

Well he is a very good looking horse. I'll at least give him that much. But, with him being an unbroke 10 year old, he wouldn't fetch a good $500 here. But, if he is what you want, fits what you are looking for and you are willing to pay a higher price, then go for it. It's really about what you are willing to pay and what you can afford to pay. It's not about his asking price, because he could be priced at $10k but if you aren't willing to pay that, then he obviously isn't the horse for you. He has nice angles and beautiful movement and ample bone, so I would pay $750 for him on a good day, depending on his temperament.

Thyme 10-25-2011 10:37 PM

I really like him, he is one of my dream crosses (saddlebred X Draft). I see horses like him go for about 2000.00 to 4000.00 around here (not sure about western riding 'communities?'), especially once you getting him going in dressage (or since he has the potential) which is popular here.

kitten_Val 10-26-2011 07:18 AM

He's eye catching for sure. As for dressage he may or may not suit you. Flashy gaits for sure - I think he'd be a great looking mount (especially on low levels), but depends on if he likes the arena work (not every horse does unfortunately).

I can't price him really because I'm not sure what is his training. Sounds like he has no training at all under the saddle, right?

DuffyDuck 10-26-2011 07:45 AM

Price wise I am unaware of how much you guys pay for! I have to say though, for a 10yo gelding that in unbroken, you'd pay about 2000, maybe 3000 if the breeding lines were good enough.
Personally, for me, low level dressage isn't all about flashy gaits, its about having a horse that is calm enough, but has enough motor, to do what you want and what you ask for. He is a stunner, no doubt about that, but you'd have to spend a lot of time getting his muscles up, and getting the muscle from the underneath of his neck. I'm doing it with Duffy, long and low, long and low...
It may just be me, and I'm no expert, but I'm not happy with the trot pictures. I can't put my finger on it, its just not something I would look for ina dressage horse.

For his price range, is there anything else you can look at that has been started?

Equilove 10-26-2011 07:46 AM

Oh my gosh, he's stunning... look at that face... that's the kind of horse I'd like to have, not necessarily for competition. Although he has good elevation and stride length in these photos, he is at liberty so a lot could change once he starts moving under saddle. Can't tell for sure but he looks very long through his back.

I can't stop looking at these pictures. Haha

Allison Finch 10-26-2011 09:35 AM

He sure is handsome and has that eyecatching quality that I like for the show ring. He seems to be willing to use his shoulder nicely, when given a reason. His neck is a tad short and thick at the throatlatch, which MAY impede his willingness to flex at the poll, but I would not say that is necessarily a fact. As for his ability to do dressage, it all depends on if he wants to do it. He certainly has the raw material for it. A diet might improve him all around.

I like him and would be willing to give him a try, if it was me. Hopefully, he is not as green as he appears to be, by the description. At least he may not have had BAD training. Let us know what you decide.


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