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diggerchick 11-08-2011 04:56 PM

horse has no breaks! Help!
 
hello,
my horse is great to ride, jump and everything...except she does NOT halt, i pull back on the reins and she goes faster, saying "woah" and such does not help! What kind of things can i try to help her with her stopping? thanks!

allisonjoy 11-08-2011 06:06 PM

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Originally Posted by diggerchick (Post 1226764)
hello,
my horse is great to ride, jump and everything...except she does NOT halt, i pull back on the reins and she goes faster, saying "woah" and such does not help! What kind of things can i try to help her with her stopping? thanks!

i have the same problem sometimes with my mare. the thing i was reccommended was getting a noseband. it will be more uncomfortable for her and will give you more control. if it gets too rough and you are unable to stop, i usually spin mine or do a one rein stop.

Ray MacDonald 11-08-2011 06:19 PM

You have to teach her how to stop. Do this at a walk-

Walk however you like to ride (with or with out contact)
Sit deep and back (make sure you aren't pressing with your legs or heels)
Say "whoa" sound it out good but not too drawn out.
Pull back on the reins light pressure first and if she doesn't stop increase the pressure.
When she finally does stop give a small release about a second or two.
Then back her up within the 3 seconds after she stops. Back about three steps.

Keep doing this until she stops at the slightest cue. Then you can move up to trot and canter. Don't rush through it! make sure she gets it perfect at the walk before going any faster.

Good luck!

Tianimalz 11-08-2011 06:39 PM

I never agree with adding more tack to fix a problem. Its an artificial fix and is not in the best interest for the horse or rider.

Learn on the ground and then in the saddle. My best advice would be lunging (assuming you know how too :]) and enforcing a strong "WOAH" that way, until she is controllable, I would not ride her above a walk or a trot, and even then practice your woahs repeatedly (not enough to bore the horse or yourself, but enough to make sure she really puts into practice what you are teaching.), jumping when a horse doesn't even stop sounds extremly unsafe.

That's my advice anyway.

Gallop On 11-08-2011 08:29 PM

As Tianimalz said, I would start with lunging. When she is walking, trotting and cantering and you can get her to stop by saying "woah" then and only then move into the saddle. Also, my horse, who was (still is) a total hyper nutcase, when I stopped being able to make him "woah" Instead of getting a harsher bit, I switched from a snaffle, to a bitless bridle, (a sidepull.) He now stops with the *Tiniest* touch from the reins. No more yanking :D I don't suggest getting something harsher if they misbehave. Establish "woah" on the ground, and she should understand it in the saddle (:

Kayty 11-08-2011 08:29 PM

Are you pulling on the reins and gripping with your legs, and tipping forward at the same time? Or pulling on the reins in a steady motion allowing the horse to 'lock' onto the pressure?

Some horses will lean into the bit and run through it when you pull, but as soon as you give the rein they will slow.
I certainly wouldn't be jumping this horse. Start at walk, establish breaks at walk, then trot and so on.
Stay on curved lines and circles, and don't spend more than 12 strides in one gait or tempo.

thequarterhorseguy 11-08-2011 09:09 PM

I like "ray McDonalds" idea. I would integrate that with a slightly harsher bit. I cut cattle and rope with my horse. Hes a big stalky young quarter horse who LOVES to run full blast. So I changed to a small recurve bit and started doing stopping drills of my own. Yes I know im gonna get yelled at by a hundred people for using a recurve. But it works.

Tianimalz 11-08-2011 09:11 PM

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Originally Posted by thequarterhorseguy (Post 1227026)
I like "ray McDonalds" idea. I would integrate that with a slightly harsher bit. I cut cattle and rope with my horse. Hes a big stalky young quarter horse who LOVES to run full blast. So I changed to a small recurve bit and started doing stopping drills of my own. Yes I know im gonna get yelled at by a hundred people for using a recurve. But it works.

Not yelled at, but strongly disagreed with.

caseymyhorserocks 11-08-2011 09:16 PM

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Originally Posted by thequarterhorseguy (Post 1227026)
I like "ray McDonalds" idea. I would integrate that with a slightly harsher bit. I cut cattle and rope with my horse. Hes a big stalky young quarter horse who LOVES to run full blast. So I changed to a small recurve bit and started doing stopping drills of my own. Yes I know im gonna get yelled at by a hundred people for using a recurve. But it works.

I would also strongly disagree with this, also. Your horse needs a better rider/trainer, trying not be harsh here, to teach him to listen to you.

Tianimalz 11-08-2011 09:20 PM

I can understand having a harsher bit on a horse who likes to bolt to a point, if you are experienced then it can be a back up plan if things don't go the way you thought. But I for one would not be using a horse for any type of serious work that didn't have a decent stop. Heck, my little trail/kids pony is only used for light work; but I made darned sure she stops as soon as the word leaves my mouth.

Harsher equipment, when used for more power instead of an experienced riders/horses refinement for long term is a lazy way out of a training problem, at least that is how I always viewed it.


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