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New_image 12-19-2011 03:48 PM

Critique this colt. Opinions - can I correct him?
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Smokey Black Thoroughbred. Coming two year old. By Guaranteed Gold out of one of our Puchilingui daughters (born prior to our purchasing the mare). This was her first colt. His owner offered him to me but feels he should be kept a stallion.
The colt has never been outside of his stall. He was stunning as a foal but has gone down hill since, he actually looks much better here than the last time I saw him about six months ago.

I know he is to young for a honest to goodness critique and I am also aware that these pictures are awful. I snapped them quick in between his flailing around and carrying on. He needs a lot of work (Needs to accept being touched, handled, learn to lead, tie, he has never seen a farrier, learn to not bite, not kick people and as stated he hasn't even seen the outdoors... ohh yippy, all I can say is I hope he inherited his sires disposition!)

Judging by the photos, give me some feed back. Critique. Do you think with some popper feeding and turning him out, he'll straiten out? His knees are big from standing in the cement stall, hocks also, at his young age what are the chances we'll correct that? I am also wondering what the chances are he'd be sound, sigh.

ErikaLynn 12-19-2011 04:06 PM

I think with a good hoof trim he would be much better, and more comfortable. His feet now are awful.

Monty77 12-19-2011 04:12 PM

I'm no very good with this conformation critique stuff, but I agree with the above. He looks really nice to me, with a good trim he should be ready to go. Beautiful colour by the way, I wish you luck with him.
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trailhorserider 12-20-2011 02:33 AM

What a crying shame he has never left his stall. That's no way to grow a horse. :-(

I would agree with everyone else and say the first order of importance is getting those feet trimmed!

Maybe the best thing to do would be to get a vet's advice on his knees/legs. (And if he's as unhandled as you say, you might need to vet for that too as he may not stand quietly, so you might kill two birds with one stone- get the vet's advice and get him tranq'd for hoof trimming at the same time).

I still can't get over the owner thinks he's a stallion prospect and yet never gave him any turnout or anything!?? How can that be? Like "hmm, he'd be a great stud but I don't want to turn him out and actually let him grow healthy or anything" (scratches head). :think:

Well, no real advice here as it is out of my expertise, but if I were looking at him, I would get the advice of a vet I trust.

Best of luck with him! I hope whatever you do, it works out best for both you and the horse. :-)

trailhorserider 12-20-2011 02:41 AM

PS. I wonder if you posted this in the "hoof care" section you might get the advice of some farriers. They might have seen similar cases and would know the prospects of him being sound.

Alwaysbehind 12-20-2011 07:38 AM

I am not sure I get why it matters that people who do not give him even the most basic care think he should remain a stallion.

His feet are a disaster. The rest of him does not scream stallion. Take this poor boy, get his feet done and geld him.

Saranda 12-20-2011 07:47 AM

Isn't keeping a horse within four walls (a stallion, nonetheless!!) considered abuse?? That causes major health and emotional problems for a horse, stallion or no stallion, and I've seen some cases, how downhill such horses can go! :(

Alwaysbehind 12-20-2011 07:53 AM


Originally Posted by Saranda (Post 1272739)
Isn't keeping a horse within four walls (a stallion, nonetheless!!) considered abuse??

Lots of horses live in stalls. No, it is not abuse.

Saranda 12-20-2011 07:55 AM

Well, it sounds horrible to me, if lots of horses are kept in stalls 24/7. It's against any of their natural needs - to graze, to run, to communicate with the herd, etc. - and against the needs of their health, too.

New_image 12-20-2011 09:35 AM

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I feel that he needs his feet trimmed and a few months of free movement before he is judged to harshly, but at this time I do not see anything that screams he needs to be kept a stallion either.
I have a couple of mares from the same farm, one is his dam. She was outside with minimal handling but has come around nicely. The other is her half sister who was in a stall until I picked her up (age 5) and she appears cow hocked from how her feet were left to grow as a baby and has the same swollen knees. She was in this stall longer, obviously, until five but the knees haven't gone down and she just grew a bit crooked which at this point cannot be fixed. With this boy being a coming two year old I was hoping getting him out now would fix some of this. Its really a shame if he cannot be fully used as he is a very nice horse.

As far as getting a vets advice he would have to be hauled a good hour and a half away, certainly sedated and then looked at. Anyone local would be A. un-educated without any fancy equipment and B. afraid of him.

I have told her to sign me up and give me a few days to get some fencing switched around. Either way, he certainly deserves the time to learn how to be a horse, basic ground manners and have these feet done.

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