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Beauseant 12-23-2011 12:11 AM

Farrier says hoof supplements are a waste of money...
 
Our farrier says that we are wasting our money buying hoof supplements for our horses for two reasons

1) they have extraordinary hooves

2) hoof supplements don't work

He says good hooves are genetic.... supplements are worthless.


What do you think? Do you use a hoof supplement? Does it make a difference?

Also; Epona's front hooves are round:

http://i990.photobucket.com/albums/af30/mazinn/037.jpg

but her back hooves are more pointed/flared:

http://i990.photobucket.com/albums/af30/mazinn/038.jpg

Is this a draft thing? a hoof conformation thing? a weight issue?

Because Beau's hooves are not AS noticeably pointed in the back: so, not being up to par on hoof knowledge, is that a fat horse thing or do ALL horses' back hooves flare out and have a pointed shape? I never noticed before.

Front

http://i990.photobucket.com/albums/af30/mazinn/039.jpg

back

http://i990.photobucket.com/albums/af30/mazinn/040.jpg

we are hesitant to stop the hoof supplement as our farrier suggested.... Epona's hooves are HUGE so I figured she could use a little extra help. Beau is a TB and we ALL know how bad their hooves can be, so he could use all the help he can get.... and I figured that since they are both barefoot, a hoof supplement would strengthen the hooves. Farrier says hoof supplements are worthless... They both have good hooves, and we don't want to mess it up by stopping the supplement if it really is working. Farrier says these horses just got lucky and the supplement did nothing.

If you use a hoof supplement, does it make a difference?

If you do not use a hoof supplement, why not?

HarleyWood 12-23-2011 12:19 AM

point less, i use biotain its pretty cheep and you cant over feed it. and it helps a lot. i belive we payed around 8 bucks for 5 months worth for three horses.

all of my horses hoofs are rounded its the way your farrier trims them. if they do it right they should be rounded not pointed at all.

Beauseant 12-23-2011 12:21 AM

whether it's biotin or a brand name supplement, our farrier says it doesn't work .....period.

He says good hooves are genetic and biotin and supplements are worthless....

Opinions?

And both Beau and Epona's back hooves are pointed..... Is this normal?

Joe4d 12-23-2011 12:24 AM

to answer that question you would have to have lab tests done on your grass and hay. Nutrients like bioton have been proven to help hoof growth. So your farrier may be both right and wrong. Biotin is naturally found in grass and certain greens. So while the vitamin is important the supplement may be worthless IF, and big IF, your soil and forage is providing enough to your horses naturally.
Many just go ahead and feed a mineral/ vitamin blend and not worry about testing the grass. So you know basic minimums are being met.

OkieGal 12-23-2011 12:25 AM

As to the hoof shape, correct me if I'm wrong but I think that's how horses hooves are shaped. Round in front, back are more pointed.

As to the supplement, I personally would use them. With the supplements, it can aid growth and keep them healthy.
Just like joint supplements, keeps everything healthy and working correctly.
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Beauseant 12-23-2011 12:27 AM

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Originally Posted by OkieGal (Post 1276624)
As to the hoof shape, correct me if I'm wrong but I think that's how horses hooves are shaped. Round in front, back are more pointed.


Harley said all her horses' hooves are round, though.... Is my farrier doing something wrong then?:?:?:?:?

OkieGal 12-23-2011 12:30 AM

I'm not sure. I'm not even sure if my theory is correct.
I just seem to remember something about having different shapes on front and back.

I guess we'll wait and see what one of the more experienced forum members has to say.
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Beauseant 12-23-2011 12:30 AM

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Originally Posted by HarleyWood (Post 1276615)
all of my horses hoofs are rounded its the way your farrier trims them. if they do it right they should be rounded not pointed at all.


is it depending on how your farrier trims them then??? why would a farrier trim them pointed in the back then...




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Sharpie 12-23-2011 12:34 AM

Jayne's back feet are more oval (longer in the heel-toe direction compared to side to side) than his front feet. If you look at the hoof boot websites, they warn you that most horses back feet are a different size and shape than the front, so that you might need different boots for the fronts and the rears. To me then, it stands to reason that them being different must be pretty darn common. I've never met a horse with four feet that were exactly the same.

I do not feed a hoof supplement, and I think that for healthy horses on a healthy diet with healthy feet, it's unnecessary. That said, if my horse was prone to foot issues (as in, had personally had issues, not just a breed prone to them) I would probably add in a supplement. My horse might have the best genetics in the world or the worst, but supplements are unlikely to hurt anything other than my pocketbook, and if I was having issues I'd think they'd be worth a go.

bsms 12-23-2011 12:45 AM

I started feeding mine a biotin supplement about 6 weeks ago. Their hooves are certainly growing faster - much faster! Hopefully the farrier will make it out next week & I'll ask his opinion.

I agree with Joe4d. A lot depends on your horse's diet. Mine eat bermuda hay, with bermuda/alfalfa pellets for supplement, since our hay is often very poor quality. Alfalfa hay makes them bonkers, so I have a choice here of bermuda or bermuda. I think supplementing makes sense for me.


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