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Almond Joy 12-29-2011 09:36 AM

Footing and Stall size questions...
 
So,my family has been looking at a barn and house, both fixer-upper. I was wondering.... Can you just have pea-gravel with shavings on top for the stalls? Would a 10 ft by 12 ft stall be big enough? And, could you have 3 horses in a 1 1/2 to 2 acre green pasture? Also, it would have to be self-care board because we wouldn't live there. How much would you pay for a 10 by 12 stall, running water, electricity, a large tack room with a blanket bar, saddle stand, and a few bridle hangers, 1 1/2-2 acre turnout,trails close by and multiple quiet dirt roads to ride on? You would have to turn out, feed, blanket,muck out and water on your own. Thanks, AJ

ETA: There are also 4-5 apple trees which bear lots of fruit in the summer/fall, that the people would have access to for their horse. There would also be a wash rack and hose...

Taffy Clayton 12-29-2011 10:53 AM

I would try and find one person to rent the whole barn and pasture.

themacpack 12-29-2011 02:08 PM

Pea gravel would be hard to compact into a firm "floor" surface to put the shavings over - so, imo, not an optimal option.
I agree with Taffy - finding a single horse owner in need of a place to maintain their horse(s) would be a great situation. As to the fees - you would be better served to due your research on what rates are in your specific area as it can vary considerably from one area to the next - so knowing what someone in another area completely might pay is going to be of little help toyou.

Almond Joy 12-29-2011 03:47 PM

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Originally Posted by themacpack (Post 1284772)
Pea gravel would be hard to compact into a firm "floor" surface to put the shavings over - so, imo, not an optimal option.
I agree with Taffy - finding a single horse owner in need of a place to maintain their horse(s) would be a great situation. As to the fees - you would be better served to due your research on what rates are in your specific area as it can vary considerably from one area to the next - so knowing what someone in another area completely might pay is going to be of little help toyou.

Thanks! Can horses just be on compact dirt and shavings, would that be better? And there are multiple people in the area that rent out pastures for their horses. For the first year, we may make them pay the absolute minimum, because all we need is for the pasture to be maintained and it would be nice to see animals on the property again.

Taffy Clayton 12-29-2011 04:06 PM

A stall with a dirt floor is fine, use clay not top soil, top soil won't last, you will end up taking all the soil out with the bedding. If you have one person renting the entire area they might be able to sugest what they want, maybe buying mats for a cut in board till they are paid for.

Joe4d 12-29-2011 07:11 PM

put stall mats over dirt, shavings on the mats.
10X12 is fine for most normal horses,
your 1 and half acre pasture with 3 horses will quickly become 1 and a half acres of dirt and mud with out plenty of hay. Even foot traffic on that small an area will take a toll. Sounds like a great place for one or two horses. I dont believe in locking horses in stalls many people do it though. I wouldnt pay anything though unless there was a way the horses can go in and out on their own.

Almond Joy 12-31-2011 05:48 PM

Thanks!

Maybe instead of 3 horses/stalls, possibly two horses and an area to tack up and for grain? And to keep it from turning into mud, what if we made it two pastures and rotationally grazed them?

Saddlebag 12-31-2011 10:32 PM

My barn floor was pit run, with the larger stones removed spread on top of clay to a depth of approx 10". No bedding was put down. The horses packed it when they escaped the biting bugs. I let it go thro a winter like this and in the spring with the frost coming out of the ground the sand packed in hard. I'll dump shavings in when I have them but usually just dump a few handfuls of diatomaceous earth on the fresh buns and pee spots. This helps draw the moisture out until I get a chance to clean it.

themacpack 12-31-2011 10:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Almond Joy (Post 1287678)
Thanks!

Maybe instead of 3 horses/stalls, possibly two horses and an area to tack up and for grain? And to keep it from turning into mud, what if we made it two pastures and rotationally grazed them?

Yes, setting it up for rotational grazing will help - but with a lot of your size, even that will likely not keep it to sustain more than one horse w/out supplemental hay.

Almond Joy 01-01-2012 09:10 AM

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Originally Posted by themacpack (Post 1287980)
Yes, setting it up for rotational grazing will help - but with a lot of your size, even that will likely not keep it to sustain more than one horse w/out supplemental hay.

Ahhhh, Ok. Thanks!


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