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MyLittlePonies 01-29-2012 06:29 PM

Choosing Stallions
 
When choosing stallions for your breeding opperation, how do you decide what is suitable in your program? How do you know if it'll be the right cross? How do you know if it's profitable? I know just being a mare owner what I want in a stallion, but how to do you choose stallions for future use if you want to save a few daughters from your stallion to continue their sire's line before they're even born? Would you look at your stallions see what crosses work for future stallion's crosses in general?

For Example: VS Code Red was bred to RV Flash N Radical(a half sister to my stallion) and seemed to of thrown a nice filly. Therefore would he cross well with my stallion's daughters being they have good conformation, temperment, and show record, etc...?

sierrams1123 01-29-2012 06:51 PM

What I try to do is find a good match for the horse, mare or stallion.

You want
-> good confo with both - that is a given - no ifs, ands, or buts about it
-> good feet
-> good temperaments
-> and a good REASON to breed
not just because you "love your mare and want a piece of her left when she passes", IMHO getting your horse stuffed is better money spent and makes more sense then breeding just for that reason!

also no horse is perfect so you want the horses to compliment each other

for example:
-> if one horse is weak in a certain area then you want to match it to a horse that is stronger in that certain area
-> if you have a really hot mare it would not be best to breed to a really hot stud, best to find a stud with a cooler temperament

I also look at lines and I am not a huge fan of cross breeds.

I love a horse that is a good mix (as far as lines go)
like I love a running breed horse that was mixed with some halter lines, that way you get a chance to have the speed and beauty
or running bred lines mixed with reining lines or even cow horse lines, you can't go wrong there

I also love love love any foundation breed QHs

all in all you just want to be smart with it and have good reasons for why you are adding another horse life into the already over populated horse world

also remember even if you follow these guide lines it does not mean you will end up with the horse you thought you would

just because both horses are "pretty" does not mean you will end up with a "pretty" baby

MyLittlePonies 01-29-2012 06:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sierrams1123 (Post 1332255)
What I try to do is find a good match for the horse, mare or stallion.

You want
-> good confo with both - that is a given - no ifs, ands, or buts about it
-> good feet
-> good temperaments
-> and a good REASON to breed
not just because you "love your mare and want a piece of her left when she passes", IMHO getting your horse stuffed is better money spent and makes more sense then breeding just for that reason!

also no horse is perfect so you want the horses to compliment each other

for example:
-> if one horse is weak in a certain area then you want to match it to a horse that is stronger in that certain area
-> if you have a really hot mare it would not be best to breed to a really hot stud, best to find a stud with a cooler temperament

I also look at lines and I am not a huge fan of cross breeds.

I love a horse that is a good mix (as far as lines go)
like I love a running breed horse that was mixed with some halter lines, that way you get a chance to have the speed and beauty
or running bred lines mixed with reining lines or even cow horse lines, you can't go wrong there

I also love love love any foundation breed QHs

all in all you just want to be smart with it and have good reasons for why you are adding another horse life into the already over populated horse world

also remember even if you follow these guide lines it does not mean you will end up with the horse you thought you would

just because both horses are "pretty" does not mean you will end up with a "pretty" baby

I agree with you. I'm not in perticular to having a piece of a mare unless there is a use for it and he has a good future instore for him. Also, how to do you deal with the many horses with longer backs?

trainerunlimited 01-29-2012 07:06 PM

You pick a stallion with a shorter back/or vise versa. For instance, my mare, for a reiner/cutter is a little long, so I picked RC fancy step because he is much shorter coupled, hoping for something in the middle. She is also a smaller mare and not very wide, (although not a twig either) I prefer a horse a little more stocky, so that was another reason why I picked RC, he is a beast!!! To me, he will complement every aspect of my mare.

sierrams1123 01-29-2012 07:09 PM

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Originally Posted by MyLittlePonies (Post 1332265)
I agree with you. I'm not in perticular to having a piece of a mare unless there is a use for it and he has a good future instore for him. Also, how to do you deal with the many horses with longer backs?


I personally am not as against a long back as some users on this forum are.
If it is something in conformation that you are not fond of then avoid horses with long backs, its just that simple.
Some would say my mare has a long back, while others would disagree, I say she has just the right length of back for me :)

You also want to watch how the horses you are interested in breeding preform whatever skill they are used for. Just because they do it or are bred to do it does not mean they are good at it or can do it correctly.

trainerunlimited 01-29-2012 07:14 PM

Yep, it just depends on what you are going to use them for. Reiners/cutters need to be compact to be successful, while if you check out the hunt seat horses the AQHA are breeding now they are lean mean fighting machines and are much longer than others. It is so interesting when breeding types. For instance, used to be cutters/reiners looked for near the same thing, now they are branching off into slightly different looks/conformations that are more successful for each discipline.

MyLittlePonies 01-29-2012 07:27 PM

Ok :) By using my example, if that worked with his half sister on getting a nice foal with that stallion, are there good chances of it working with my stud's daughter's?

sierrams1123 01-29-2012 07:29 PM

I'm confused as in who is who.
Who's half sister and who is your stud.
What relation do that have to each other?

MyLittlePonies 01-29-2012 07:42 PM

The mare that was bred to VS Code Red was my stallion's half sister through the sire. My stud is Me Too Radical, sired by Radical Rodder. RV Flashy N Radical shares the same sire.

trainerunlimited 01-29-2012 08:01 PM

I would say as long as he and his half sister share a similar bottom line and aren't wildly different, it would be safe to assume that, because this cross through your stud's half sister has proven to be a nice cross, your stud's daughters would throw similar characteristics and should be a nice cross as well.
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