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jay 02-11-2012 03:36 PM

native showing leaving natural whats to be done
 
iv my very first show coming up and my 2 year old black and white cob needs dressed for the occasion .. whats to be done trimming wize she has all the winter whiskers .. and how do i get her yellow mane back white same goes for her feathers .. can any body advise please .. and anything else thats gona help us ..

netty83 02-11-2012 03:49 PM

Au naturel is the way for the natives. No pulling plaiting trimming of whiskers nothing. Pig oil and sulphur mix for feathers. Show sheen makes them look great once they have been bathed but it can be very slippy but if you aren't riding your cob it should be fine. Any pics?

jay 02-12-2012 05:33 AM

soz no pics yet will get round to is asap thanks netty .. not even ear hair?

netty83 02-12-2012 06:31 AM

Is it just a local show? you can check the requirements from the BHS standards but i've always known the local shows like them to be left as they were and just bathed so they were clean.

faye 02-12-2012 03:08 PM

Jay, unfortunatly a black and white cob cannot be a native pony. Native ponies are those registered in one of the 9 main pure bred registers in the UK (Welsh, connemara, highland, new forest, fell, dale, exmoor, dartmoor, shetland).

You can have black and white cobs that are shown as traditionals. As you said yours looks exactly like the photo I put up in the other thread I would say yours is a Traditional.

For you:
Navy velvet hat (flesh coloured straps or a beagler for inhands)
Shirt, tie, tweed jacket.
Trousers in a contrasting colour to your horses legs (I prefer navy blue for white legs, or brown).
Boots or shoes that you can run in (no trainers)

For the pony.
Plain inhand bridle with plain flat wide noseband and browband. (preferably dark havanna leather).
Mane and tail should be long and knot free and immaculate.
feathers should be long, silky and knot free.
Trimm off any mustach and her beard but not her wiskers.
Trimm off any long hairs or gunky bits from her ears.
The pony should of course be absolutly spotless, scrubed within an inch of its life. (the photo I put up before the pony had a 3hr bath the night before and an hour in the morning of the show, rediculas amounts of chalk etc).
Bit of baby oil around the eyes and muzzle and you are good to go.

i personaly never use hoof oil on a horse with long feather as it geets in the feathers, stains them and causes them to clump.

faye 02-12-2012 03:09 PM

Netty, having shown natives at top level i can honestly say you would be suprised at how much skillfull trimming, dieing and makeup goes on at home!

netty83 02-12-2012 03:45 PM

Really, i bet there are alot of tricks you can use to make them look "natural". My local shows frown upon it and really do like them to be as natural as possible beards taches the lot aslong as they are clean and well presented.

faye 02-12-2012 04:01 PM

hmm local showing is iffy at best. Having taken a youngster to one who was aimed at HOYS and has had incredible results inhand and stood last in a novice ridden to a fat, non descript pony who wouldnt canter and insisted on standing on its back legs in the line when my little lass tried her heart out and did a good show. I have to say that I won't go again, give me panel judges anyday, judges who actualy know what they are looking at and are accountable under society rules as opposed to Joe blogs mother from down the road who kind of knows one end of a horse from the other.

I can tell you now at a decent show that if you turned out anything other than a fell dales or highland with a beard or anything with a tach you would be seen as a total amatur who doesnt know what they are doing.
If You showed a connie or NF with an unpulled mane then you would be laughed at.

netty83 02-13-2012 04:11 PM

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Originally Posted by faye (Post 1355601)
hmm local showing is iffy at best. Having taken a youngster to one who was aimed at HOYS and has had incredible results inhand and stood last in a novice ridden to a fat, non descript pony who wouldnt canter and insisted on standing on its back legs in the line when my little lass tried her heart out and did a good show. I have to say that I won't go again, give me panel judges anyday, judges who actualy know what they are looking at and are accountable under society rules as opposed to Joe blogs mother from down the road who kind of knows one end of a horse from the other.

I can tell you now at a decent show that if you turned out anything other than a fell dales or highland with a beard or anything with a tach you would be seen as a total amatur who doesnt know what they are doing.
If You showed a connie or NF with an unpulled mane then you would be laughed at.

You described our local judges down to the T there :D. I have a dales and a highland:D

jay 02-14-2012 10:28 AM

faye i am a total amature . . whats a tach .. oh im scared now .


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