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Barney Vee 02-20-2012 01:23 PM

looking at a walker/fresian cross have questions
 
I have been searching for a level headed trail horse in trade for my schoolie, who is awesome in the arena but petrified of teh trail. I have found a woman who has many horses for sale and would take my girl in trade as she is interested in doing some dressage work and found my horse to be appropriate for at least low level.
My question is this;
What kind of traits might I find in such a cross. Known as a ' firewalker',I am seeking a level headed horse. He deos not gait, I have no problem with that. He is around 14.2h which is the size I am looking for. I love the personality of the TWH and my farm owner spotted this one when I went to look at another pony. SHe will test drive and evaluate 2xs and then I am up to bat.
I am hoping that some of you experienced and learned folk might have some insite. This is a gelding so please don't scorn upon the fact that he is a cross, I am looking for personality and nice temperament. I know that no horses is exactly the same, but what might I look for in this gelding as we visit him?

thanks again

churumbeque 02-20-2012 02:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Barney Vee (Post 1369578)
I have been searching for a level headed trail horse in trade for my schoolie, who is awesome in the arena but petrified of teh trail. I have found a woman who has many horses for sale and would take my girl in trade as she is interested in doing some dressage work and found my horse to be appropriate for at least low level.
My question is this;
What kind of traits might I find in such a cross. Known as a ' firewalker',I am seeking a level headed horse. He deos not gait, I have no problem with that. He is around 14.2h which is the size I am looking for. I love the personality of the TWH and my farm owner spotted this one when I went to look at another pony. SHe will test drive and evaluate 2xs and then I am up to bat.
I am hoping that some of you experienced and learned folk might have some insite. This is a gelding so please don't scorn upon the fact that he is a cross, I am looking for personality and nice temperament. I know that no horses is exactly the same, but what might I look for in this gelding as we visit him?

thanks again

How old? They grow until 5 or 6 and that is unusually small. I have a friesian peruvian cross which turned out to be an acceptional nice horse. I know someone else that bought a friesian/tb/peruvian cross that also did very well. They usually do not gait unless they are bred again to a gaited horse.
Is she a horse trader? Sounds like it if she has many for sale. How did she come across this one?

ginofalltrades 02-20-2012 02:28 PM

The size is intriguing. Standardbreds and Friesians tend to be much taller than what you have specified.

I currently have a Friesian Sport horse (Sire - Friesian, Dam- TB/Morgan x Percheron/Paint). He is 3, and I have had him for 2 years. If you would like to check him out he is under my HORSES.

I spotted this fellow when I was strolling through Frisian crosses on horstopia.com. I have always loved the Friesian breed, but had not very much experience with them. When I found this cross, painted and stunning, I was in love. Soon after I went to pick him up, I put him into a trailer with my show horse, as I had been traveling back from an Event. Never being trailered before, he hopped right in and got along instantly with my other guy. Unfortunately, my truck broke down on the side of a highway, in the middle of nowhere. To make a really long story short, he had to stay in there for 11 hours before we could unload, which could be maddening for a yearling who only ever knew a field. Poor little guy, but he stood in there like a statue munching on hay and sipping water. When we let him out into the herd, he got along with everyone. But interestingly enough, while all the others would run from being caught, he would come right up and put his head on your shoulder. He is still that way today. In fact he is so nicely tempered that people have asked me to use him as a companion horse for their guys. He picked up his ground training immediately, he would learn things in half the time of other horses I had started. The first time I went to put a saddle on him, I ended up riding him out of the arena and down the road in 10 min! I could do this because he had shown me to be the most level headed horse I have encountered in my 30 years of riding and training.

I began to ask others about their Friesian Crosses, and the stories were all very similar. These horses tend to be incredibly smart and even tempered, they LOVE people, and are generally quite striking. I think that Friesian blood really ads something special to the mix. Good luck with your purchase, and when you get him, make sure you post photos...

:D

Joe4d 02-20-2012 04:48 PM

I scratch my head at walker crosses, They dont gait, but they usually trot like a walker, IE bone jaring as all get out. Go ride that one at a trot and you'l see what I mean. Too many good walkers out there that do gait for good prices. If I wasnt interested in a gaited horse I would look for a sturdy QH. Tons of them out there as well.

farley 02-20-2012 05:01 PM

Yea I worked with a morgan/friesian he was awesome! very smart, level headed, kinda short though.
But I agree with joe watch out for those walker crosses their trot kills me!!

ginofalltrades 02-20-2012 05:16 PM

I don't know too much about the Standardbreads jarring trot, but I do know that Friesians tend to be quite floaty, so maybe you'll score a happy medium.

ponyboy 02-20-2012 05:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Joe4d (Post 1369929)
I scratch my head at walker crosses, They dont gait, but they usually trot like a walker, IE bone jaring as all get out. Go ride that one at a trot and you'l see what I mean. Too many good walkers out there that do gait for good prices. If I wasnt interested in a gaited horse I would look for a sturdy QH. Tons of them out there as well.

Gotta agree with you here... it doesn't make sense to cross gaited with non-gaited.

Tonipony 02-20-2012 07:07 PM

Usually the gaited to non-gaited crosses don't work or if they have any gait, it is not very much. With that being said, I was riding out in South Dakota one year and a lady was riding a TWH/Shire cross that did gait. He was huge, cute and lovable and he had a nice runwalk on him. He was a pretty cool horse!!

Barney Vee 02-20-2012 11:30 PM

I scratch my head at walker crosses, They don't gait, but they usually trot like a walker, IE bone jaring as all get out. Go ride that one at a trot and you'l see what I mean. Too many good walkers out there that do gait for good prices. If I wasnt interested in a gaited horse I would look for a sturdy QH. Tons of them out there as well."

I have a beautiful QH that this woman is intersted in. Trouble is, she is arena awesome and trail crazy. But after some of teh horses I have seen lately, she is looking better all the time. Trouble is, everyone else will be on the trail and I will be stuck at the farm.
And yes, she is a horse trader, found that out today,..not too happy abou that but it is a beautiful facility in Ocala. She has a trainer and vet on staff.
I already turned down one pony, and she offered me a Conerama(???) for 2 grand plus my horse. THe pony is about 13.3 and one hell of a jumper,..but unless we are crossing logs and walls ( none in FLorida,..not stone walls anyhow) the pony although beautiful would not serve me well.
My QH is a beautiful grey who goes into collection with the flick of the wrist, she is truly awesome, but not a good fit.
So, i continue to look.
THere are loads of 14.2h TWH down here, and crossed with a Fresian would not that account for the size,..or not???? I had never even heard of a Fresian cross untill today. I thought that this would be a good place for advise and info,..and I'm glad I came here with my question. :)

DraftyAiresMum 02-20-2012 11:39 PM

To answer your size question, Friesians tend to be 16hh+. Usually, big (16hh+) crossed with little (14-15hh) will AT LEAST result in medium (15-16hh). Example: my boy is a Percheron/paint cross. Paint sire was 15.1hh. Percheron dam was 16.3-17hh. Aires is pushing 16.2hh at the butt as a long two-year-old (and his withers are quickly catching up). String tests and growth indicators have me staring down the barrel of a 16.3-17.1hh horse when full grown. That being said, I would expect a Friesian/TWH cross to be AT LEAST 15.1hh+.


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