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KaylaMarie96 03-12-2012 03:08 AM

Western Noseband
 
I recently purchased my horse Koby a few months ago and have came to find that he needs a noseband. I ride western and love the western look. I can't seem to find any western bridles with a noseband that I really like. I also like the native american style. Does anyone know of any websites that sell western bridles with nosebands? I am also trying to go bitless and I need some suggestions on how to do that the right way. My horse just hates things in his mouth and does a lot better if I just ride him in his halter. Any tips would be much appreciated! Thanks!

DrumRunner 03-12-2012 03:16 AM

Nose band meaning?...There are different types of nosebands when riding Western. A noseband that is connected to a bit, a noseband on a "sidepull" bridle, a noseband that is connected to a tie down...It would be helpful to know which one you're talking about.

kevinshorses 03-12-2012 03:21 AM

NO horse needs a noseband. Many riders need them but the horses don't. Horses don't generally mind the bit in thier mouth as much as the hands that are on the reins so the first thing I'd do is take a long hard look at the way you're riding her.

smrobs 03-12-2012 03:30 AM

What's the reasoning behind him "needing" a noseband? If you are thinking of using one to keep him from gaping his mouth, then you would essentially be taking an aspirin for a broken arm. Sure, it may cover up the symptoms for a short time, but it won't fix the problem.

Generally speaking, a noseband (or caveson) isn't a standard piece of western equipment. The folks that do use them properly only do so for decoration and they serve no real purpose.

Or are you talking about a tie-down? If you are wanting to use a tie-down on him, it's pretty unlikely you'll ever be able to go bitless because he'll learn to brace against it and won't associate pressure there with the cue for stop. Plus, tie downs are not for creating headsets. If it's being used to keep their head down, then it's being used wrong and causing many more problems than it will ever fix.

If you are wanting to go bitless for western riding, I would strongly suggest either a sidepull (avoid the single rope, they are rather harsh)
Saddles Tack Horse Supplies - ChickSaddlery.com Leather Stitched Sidepull With Double Rope Nose

This one is full leather. It's technically an english bridle but you could switch the reins out and it would work fine for western
Tory Leather Nose Side Pull - Horse.com

Or maybe something like a soft or "loping" hackamore. It has the functionality of riding in a halter type bridle, but has the look of an actual bridle.
4 Plait Soft Rope Hackamore w/Flat Reins | NRS - National Roper Supply - Western Wear, tack, team ropes, horse tack, team roping ropes, bits...

KaylaMarie96 03-12-2012 06:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by smrobs (Post 1403131)
What's the reasoning behind him "needing" a noseband? If you are thinking of using one to keep him from gaping his mouth, then you would essentially be taking an aspirin for a broken arm. Sure, it may cover up the symptoms for a short time, but it won't fix the problem.

Generally speaking, a noseband (or caveson) isn't a standard piece of western equipment. The folks that do use them properly only do so for decoration and they serve no real purpose.

Or are you talking about a tie-down? If you are wanting to use a tie-down on him, it's pretty unlikely you'll ever be able to go bitless because he'll learn to brace against it and won't associate pressure there with the cue for stop. Plus, tie downs are not for creating headsets. If it's being used to keep their head down, then it's being used wrong and causing many more problems than it will ever fix.

If you are wanting to go bitless for western riding, I would strongly suggest either a sidepull (avoid the single rope, they are rather harsh)
Saddles Tack Horse Supplies - ChickSaddlery.com Leather Stitched Sidepull With Double Rope Nose

This one is full leather. It's technically an english bridle but you could switch the reins out and it would work fine for western
Tory Leather Nose Side Pull - Horse.com

Or maybe something like a soft or "loping" hackamore. It has the functionality of riding in a halter type bridle, but has the look of an actual bridle.
4 Plait Soft Rope Hackamore w/Flat Reins | NRS - National Roper Supply - Western Wear, tack, team ropes, horse tack, team roping ropes, bits...

When I'm riding him he won't stop when he is wearing a bridal. As soon as I take off his bridal and ride him with just a halter he stops on a dime.

kevinshorses 03-12-2012 06:15 PM

You should concentrate on how you're riding him and why he is having a problem with the bridle. Changing headgear is probably only a temporary fix and soon he won't stop with a halter either.

smrobs 03-12-2012 06:25 PM

^^Exactly. What you describe isn't an equipment issue, it's a training issue. Unless you can find out exactly why he is refusing to stop in the bit and fix the problem, then it will continue to rear it's ugly head no matter what you ride him in.

KaylaMarie96 03-12-2012 06:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DrumRunner (Post 1403115)
Nose band meaning?...There are different types of nosebands when riding Western. A noseband that is connected to a bit, a noseband on a "sidepull" bridle, a noseband that is connected to a tie down...It would be helpful to know which one you're talking about.

To be honest I'm not entirely sure. My problem is that when I try to stop my horse he plows right through all of my cues. Of course I ask with my seat first and say "Whoa" but he won't stop with just those cues so I am forced to use the reigns. In then just becomes a game of tug of war and that's not fun for either of us . I have very soft hands so i don't think I am being too rough. His previous owner always rode him with a noseband so yesterday I decided to just try and ride with a halter. He was amazing! Stopping and backing with no problem. So I figured that maybe his problem was that he either hates his bit (my reason for trying to go bitless) or he needs a noseband. He does have a tendency of opening his mouth so maybe that would help that problem also. I hope that helps! :)

KaylaMarie96 03-12-2012 06:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kevinshorses (Post 1403121)
NO horse needs a noseband. Many riders need them but the horses don't. Horses don't generally mind the bit in thier mouth as much as the hands that are on the reins so the first thing I'd do is take a long hard look at the way you're riding her.

I have pretty soft hands so i don't think that's the problem. My horse is a he by the way ;)

KaylaMarie96 03-12-2012 06:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by smrobs (Post 1403131)
What's the reasoning behind him "needing" a noseband? If you are thinking of using one to keep him from gaping his mouth, then you would essentially be taking an aspirin for a broken arm. Sure, it may cover up the symptoms for a short time, but it won't fix the problem.

Generally speaking, a noseband (or caveson) isn't a standard piece of western equipment. The folks that do use them properly only do so for decoration and they serve no real purpose.

Or are you talking about a tie-down? If you are wanting to use a tie-down on him, it's pretty unlikely you'll ever be able to go bitless because he'll learn to brace against it and won't associate pressure there with the cue for stop. Plus, tie downs are not for creating headsets. If it's being used to keep their head down, then it's being used wrong and causing many more problems than it will ever fix.

If you are wanting to go bitless for western riding, I would strongly suggest either a sidepull (avoid the single rope, they are rather harsh)
Saddles Tack Horse Supplies - ChickSaddlery.com Leather Stitched Sidepull With Double Rope Nose

This one is full leather. It's technically an english bridle but you could switch the reins out and it would work fine for western
Tory Leather Nose Side Pull - Horse.com

Or maybe something like a soft or "loping" hackamore. It has the functionality of riding in a halter type bridle, but has the look of an actual bridle.
4 Plait Soft Rope Hackamore w/Flat Reins | NRS - National Roper Supply - Western Wear, tack, team ropes, horse tack, team roping ropes, bits...

Thank you! :) I really like the look of the Sidepull. I will talk to my trainer and maybe give that a try.


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