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iloverains 04-06-2012 08:20 PM

Fetlocks clicking and line in hoof.
 
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Hey

Two discussions -

1st - One of my horses (7yrs) fetlocks (I keep almost typing ankle haha) is clicking, not 100% sure on what one, think both the back ones. And also there is a horse (just 3yrs) at work that all 4 are clicking (racehorse - but hasn't even started to train yet)
I was wondering if anyone had come across this before and If I should be concerned. The horses aren't lame or sore.

2nd - My pony (13yrs) has some what lines in her hoof (photo attached) all four hoofs are the same, there is no heat or lameness, shes still happily galloping around. So again just wondering if I should be concerned.

(hoofs have been trimmed since photo has been taken (:)

loosie 04-07-2012 04:06 AM

1st. Yes, come across it plenty. I'm not a bodyworker, but I wouldn't be too concerned if that's the only prob.

2nd. That's a pretty serious looking stress/laminitis ring. It's an indication of something that happened, likely in her diet, quite recently, which caused damage to the laminae. Be interested to see more pics & get more info. Check out the link in my signature for tips on good critique pix.

iloverains 04-07-2012 06:08 PM

1 - thanks, will keep an eye on it.

2 - Will take some more photo's and post them right away - her diet did change a little, we ran out of apple cider vinigar (about a 6weeks ago) but shes been back on it for about 2 weeks (slowly introduced it again) She is a little fat. but not obese. She gets barely any food now - and coming into winter she should drop a bit. Thanks!

iloverains 04-07-2012 07:53 PM

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Better photos - all hooves are the same, so this is just a side and front on view.

loosie 04-07-2012 11:29 PM

I wouldn't imagine ACV would make a difference. What is her diet, inc. pasture/hay? What is her management? Could it possibly be a laminitic event from another cause? Eg. wormer, stress, anti-inflams, concussion... Are you in part of the world that's Spring? Could it be that she's been long-term overweight & beginning to suffer insulin resistance?

Looks like it was somewhere around 3-5 weeks ago, depending how fast they grow. Looks like she's had a few lesser episodes in previous months before too, including a not-so-minor one.

Looks like she's had pretty reasonable trimming, as far as you can tell from those pics, but she's got a bit broken forward pastern & heels look long & underrrun. hairlines look a bit high, as if foot is a bit low in the capsule, tho it could be the pic & lack of caudal development that makes it look that way. Be interested to see more pics & info.

iloverains 04-08-2012 04:58 AM

Thanks - She gets fed Grassy hay (with a bit of Oaten and Wheaten) 2 times a day (gets a small trailer load each time shared with 7 other horses) So she probably eats about 2-3 biscuits morning and night.

She also gets bucket food morning and night - (Scoop=2L) 1/2 Scoop lucerne chaff, 1/4 scoop Barely Flakes and 1/2 scoop Pony pellets. along with that she gets a small clove of garlic (fresh and chopped up), Sunflower seeds (small handful) and about a small handful of Equilibrium (vitamins)

It is Autumn here. and she doesn't get much grass (1-2 times a week she is on grass for about 3 hours at a time) as we don't have much. She roams 2ish acres.

She has put on weight a while ago (beginning/mid summer (December)) Attached is a photo of her. she isn't that fat, and she get's ridden 5-6 times a week for about 15-40mins.

I trim her feet every 3ish weeks. She does have a bit odd heal, been working on it slowly.

I got her when she was 4 - and a old large man used to muster here (trotting up and down hills chasing cows) presuming he had done that for at least a year (so as a 3 year old doing hard work) she is only 13.1hh.

please let me know if you want a particular photo of her or her hooves.!

Thanks so much!

loosie 04-09-2012 08:03 PM

Hmm, diet sounds OK, tho I wouldn't feed grain if you can only give it twice daily. See my signature links for tips for pix. The pic of your horse didn't attach.

mnl764 04-09-2012 08:12 PM

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Originally Posted by loosie (Post 1443173)
I wouldn't imagine ACV would make a difference. What is her diet, inc. pasture/hay? What is her management? Could it possibly be a laminitic event from another cause? Eg. wormer, stress, anti-inflams, concussion... Are you in part of the world that's Spring? Could it be that she's been long-term overweight & beginning to suffer insulin resistance?

Looks like it was somewhere around 3-5 weeks ago, depending how fast they grow. Looks like she's had a few lesser episodes in previous months before too, including a not-so-minor one.

Looks like she's had pretty reasonable trimming, as far as you can tell from those pics, but she's got a bit broken forward pastern & heels look long & underrrun. hairlines look a bit high, as if foot is a bit low in the capsule, tho it could be the pic & lack of caudal development that makes it look that way. Be interested to see more pics & info.

Oh gosh, I think I am in love with you! GREAT advice and knowledgeable.....I am new to this forum and the horse world and find this place so addicting because its a gold mine of information. A little off topic but....lol.

loosie 04-09-2012 09:48 PM

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Originally Posted by mnl764 (Post 1446218)
Oh gosh, I think I am in love with you! GREAT advice and knowledgeable.....I am new to this forum and the horse world and find this place so addicting because its a gold mine of information. A little off topic but....lol.

:oops: Thanks for the vote of confidence! I agree these places are indeed a wealth of information, but don't forget there is also a lot of MISinformation abounding, outdated practices, differences of opinions, etc too, so don't just take anyone's word for stuff... even mine:-P, but use it all as food for thought, do your homework & try to make informed decisions on what advice you take or don't.

iloverains 04-13-2012 04:39 AM

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Hey - sorry for the late reply - for some reason my other replies didn't go through and been working!!

anyway - been doing lots of research and she 99% hasn't got laminitis - cause the only symptom is the lines in the hoof but even then they aren't the same type (don't go all the way around the hoof and not located near the toe)

She most likely has 'Grass rings' from being on the rich lush grass for 1-3 hours 1-3 times a week. and then standing around on the dirt (she doesn't run around much at all - unlike the other freaks :P)

she also has no lameness or any tenderness.

So keeping a eye on it but also cutting back her feed- cause she is still a little fat!

here's a photo of her anyway (:


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