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Derry girl 04-11-2012 03:12 PM

George Zimmerman..
Today I was reading about an on-going case in the states about George Zimmerman, who shot an unarmed black teenager Trayvon Martin, (apparently) in self defence in a gated community.

Trayvon Martin's family and supporters have said Mr Zimmerman killed him in cold blood after suspecting the teenager was a criminal based on his race and the fact he was wearing a hooded sweatshirt.......The neighbourhood watchman's supporters have said he only opened fire after the teenager attacked him, broke his nose and banged his head against the pavement.

Zimmerman has now set up a website so people can give him donations to pay toward his living and legal expenses!

Zimmerman has not been charged because under Florida's "stand your ground" self-defence law individuals are granted scope to use force if they feel seriously in danger.... and now hes gone missing..on the run in my opinion!

Whats your opinion on this case? .. To be honest I find it very hard to be certain of whos in the wrong, Like you have Zimmerman saying Trayvon attacked him and then you have Trayvons family saying he was a good lad, would'nt get involved in disputes and was just in the wrong place at the wrong time..

When it comes to this "stand your ground" law, personally I find this very disturbing. Coming from a country that people used to kill eachother because of their Religion, sometimes ethnic background, but 90% of the time religion, If we had that law in Ireland it would get heaviley abused....I was called catholic scum oneday because Iv redy/auburn hair and was wearing a green dress...I would end up afaird walking through certain areas incase people thought I was a threat, could just shoot me and nothing would be done?

Like wether you support Zimmerman or not the usual proceddings would be that he would be taken in for questioning to find out exactly what happened. From what I hear on the news the police just made sure Zimmerman was ok because he said straight away that it was self defence so they let him go on home...That dosent seem normal to me when a 17yr old lad is laying dead on the road.

I'll not go to much into what I feel about people been allowed guns in their home because I know that its a fairly common thing in America and I dont want to rattle any cages but I do think that laws should be tighter on who can get a Licence and maybe it should be complusory for them to do a training course, My granda had a shot gun for hunting but he had to a 3month course and keep the gun in a locked trunk in the basement and keep the bullets in the attic and the garda would visit every few months to check that he still stored it like that.. and that was in the 40's!!... Does that happen in America??

Like was it really nessacary for Zimmerman to shoot Trayvon dead? If he really needed to shoot could he not have shot him in the arm or leg so that it would wounded him and Zimmerman could have phoned the police...

Whats your thoughts on this?

Allison Finch 04-11-2012 03:45 PM

I don't think the press has given a very accurate account of what really happened here. I think we have to wait until the story is told in court (yes, he will be charged, of that I'm sure) and then countered by any forensic clues available. I have heard too many contrasting stories to even begin to believe I know what happened.

The stand your ground law only applies if you are being seriously threatened or attacked. Simply believing you might be and following a person you believe is "up to no good" does not give you the right to invoke this law's protection.

It will be interesting to see what is unwrapped in this case.

Speed Racer 04-11-2012 04:04 PM

I agree with Allison.

There are too many conflicting stories for me to form an opinion of his guilt or innocence, although I'm very much in agreement that he needs to stand trial. Hopefully, forensics will tell the real story.

As far as the right to bear arms, you're not an American so don't think like one. We take that right very seriously. I have two guns, and not only have a license for them, but have taken firearm safety courses. Guns are nothing more than tools, and ANY tool can be deadly in the wrong hands.

texasgal 04-11-2012 04:06 PM

They have announced that they are pressing charges.

Black, white, yellow, purple .. the teen was unarmed and the overzealous neighborhood watch guy should be held responsible..


Derry girl 04-11-2012 04:10 PM


Originally Posted by texasgal (Post 1449496)
Black, white, yellow, purple .. the teen was unarmed and the overzealous neighborhood watch guy should be held responsible..


My thoughts to, fair enough if Trayvon hada been pointing a gun in Zimmermans face but he was unarmed, there was no need to kill him.

Derry girl 04-11-2012 04:12 PM


Originally Posted by texasgal (Post 1449496)
They have announced that they are pressing charges.

btw... did they find him? On he news here earlier that even his lawyers didnt know where he was...?

texasgal 04-11-2012 04:12 PM

... and I'm a gun owner .. and DH is a concealed carrier. I believe in self defense and wouldn't hesitate to shoot someone in my home if I felt threatened.

This case is very troubling .. for race relations, as well as to our right to bear arms..

Will be interesting to see all the details come out in court.

texasgal 04-11-2012 04:13 PM

Oh, I had read that they were "out of contact" with him, but am unaware that he is missing.. wouldn't surprise me though.

They don't have to find him to press charges on him .. they'll find him eventually if they do!


LetAGrlShowU 04-11-2012 04:16 PM

He has officially been charged. The original facts of the case was that Zimmerman called the police stating someone "suspicious" was in the neighborhood. The police asked if he was following the suspect, and he said yes. He was told to not follow him. If I have right to be somewhere and feel threatened because someone if following me, i may become aggressive, in my own self defense. I am interested to see what plays out as well.

This could all have been avoided if Zimmerman let the cops do their job.

FlyGap 04-11-2012 04:16 PM

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If they didn't press charges the man is a sitting duck anyways.
All people who have issued death threats and bounties for this man needs to be prosecuted. TO THE FULLEST EXTENT OF THE LAW.
As to the whole issue who knows, needs to be and like said before he is going to court.
I do hope all the information about him and the terrible situation comes to light so we can put this tragic mess to rest.
Praying for BOTH of their families!
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