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Klassic Superstar 04-13-2012 03:40 PM

Critique our first bare back ride!?
 
Here is a video of last nights ride with Oliver. This was his first real bareback ride, befor I have just sat on him for 10 minutes or just while he was grazing or to just get pictures of me on him bareback. Last night as you can see here is our first walk trot and canter bareback ride. I couldn't have been more pleased! 7 months ago I got this little horse who had the title of horse from hell. He bucked everyone off, broke someones arm and all sorts of other things. He hasn't bucked once with me. This shows me bow far in our bond and trust we have come! When I first got him he jumped at everything and was like a race horse!



*** please do NOT crituque me, this is my 2 nd ride back after 4 weeks of no riding from a car accident, I was also feeling pretty darn sick all day yesterday and last night. **

What do you think and what you see that you like?:wink:

Saranda 04-13-2012 04:52 PM

Sorry, it is really tough to critique if you don't want any critique.

beau159 04-13-2012 06:19 PM

Agreed^^^^

Why did you title your post
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Critique our first bare back ride!?
and then you go and say
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please do NOT crituque me, this is my 2 nd ride back after 4 weeks of no riding from a car accident, I was also feeling pretty darn sick all day yesterday and last night.
Either you want an honest critique, or you just make excuses. Looks like the latter.

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This was his first real bareback ride, befor I have just sat on him for 10 minutes or just while he was grazing or to just get pictures of me on him bareback. Last night as you can see here is our first walk trot and canter bareback ride. I couldn't have been more pleased! 7 months ago I got this little horse who had the title of horse from hell.
So what exactly have you done with him in 7 months? Have you done additional ground work? How old is he? Or have you just "sat" on him and took pictures and now hopped on him bareback? More information would be useful.

As far as the riding goes, you need to bring your legs backward. You are sitting chair-seated. You heel, hip, and ear should make a straight line.

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He bucked everyone off, broke someones arm and all sorts of other things. He hasn't bucked once with me. This shows me bow far in our bond and trust we have come! When I first got him he jumped at everything and was like a race horse!
I'm sorry, but he hasn't chosen not to buck you off because you have such a great bond and trust and warm fuzzy feelings. Horses don't become a human friend. They don't refrain from acting up because "they like you". They are a horse; not a person.

And it sounds like you've done nothing with seriously riding this horse with a saddle and making him work, which may be where the underlying problem lies.

You didn't even make him gallop a full and complete circle around the person videoing you, and allowed him to lazily fall back into a trot because he wanted to. You're not doing the horse a favor by being buddy-buddy fuzzy-fuzzy and letting him do what he wants. The horse looks to the rider to be the leader of their herd of two. Someone to tell the herd what to do and when to do it. No, I'm not talking about using force or abuse to force the horse to do what you want. I'm talking about being the dominant leader and the horse obeys you because the horse respects you and your cues.

Of course he hasn't tried to buck you off yet. It doesn't look like you've asked him to do any real work yet (based on this video) and the information you've provided. If you start asking him to step it up and actually do some things, I guarantee you'll see the horse everyone else did. However, that's where it's even more important to make sure he knows that you are "the stallion leader" out of your little pack. A "good bond" means squat to him. He's a horse. Have you seen how a herd of horses act together? Everyone does what the lead stallion says. No questions asked. Because they respect his knowledge and authority.

Klassic Superstar 04-13-2012 06:35 PM

Okay wow was not the response I was looking for but here is what I'll say to it, I first said ease critique him not me. He I a 5
6 year old Dutch TB cross and I have done a lot of work with him, he came to me with only 4 months under saddle at the most and two of those months was him getting away with green baby behavior. I jut was looking to see what you thaught of his movement an behavior. Tho not a horse you can just jump on and do anything with , getting to the point has taken a lot.

I also very much disagree in the whole statement of he's not going to buck you off if you don't ask much. He is sensitive and sometimes pretty unpredictiable as a you green horse.

He was in training for 5 months and now I am moving him closer to home.

I beilive it's our bond and understanding of each other that we work together and that he trust me
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Klassic Superstar 04-13-2012 06:40 PM

Also it was out first time. It was night time he I young and green I set him up to work under saddle with lots of praise when he went forward he got praise even if the then walked. By would I make him Gallup when it's his fort time. I wasn't trying to scare him or make him go fast. I just wanted him to understand good go forward it's okay.
Yes he is a horse but if your trying to tell me he is t my best frien and our relationship as rider and horse and owner and horse means he isn't going buck me off then I do t k ow what to tell you but that I think differently and you came on to my thread making me feel lesser and that my order wasn't doing anything good. This was a big moment for me and I can't let you take that away
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Klassic Superstar 04-13-2012 06:46 PM

I just wanted a feel I hat people through for his first time bareback
Good bad
Idk fluid looked relaxed and forward and did what I asked it's not like I'm asking for a show class critique this was just for fun...
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poppy1356 04-13-2012 07:44 PM

Well I think you two looked very good together. I'm not one for a critique of anything as I'm still learning how everything should look but congratulations he looks very good and content.
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mnl764 04-13-2012 07:47 PM

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Originally Posted by beau159 (Post 1453706)
Agreed^^^^

Why did you title your post and then you go and say

Either you want an honest critique, or you just make excuses. Looks like the latter.



So what exactly have you done with him in 7 months? Have you done additional ground work? How old is he? Or have you just "sat" on him and took pictures and now hopped on him bareback? More information would be useful.

As far as the riding goes, you need to bring your legs backward. You are sitting chair-seated. You heel, hip, and ear should make a straight line.



I'm sorry, but he hasn't chosen not to buck you off because you have such a great bond and trust and warm fuzzy feelings. Horses don't become a human friend. They don't refrain from acting up because "they like you". They are a horse; not a person.

And it sounds like you've done nothing with seriously riding this horse with a saddle and making him work, which may be where the underlying problem lies.

You didn't even make him gallop a full and complete circle around the person videoing you, and allowed him to lazily fall back into a trot because he wanted to. You're not doing the horse a favor by being buddy-buddy fuzzy-fuzzy and letting him do what he wants. The horse looks to the rider to be the leader of their herd of two. Someone to tell the herd what to do and when to do it. No, I'm not talking about using force or abuse to force the horse to do what you want. I'm talking about being the dominant leader and the horse obeys you because the horse respects you and your cues.

Of course he hasn't tried to buck you off yet. It doesn't look like you've asked him to do any real work yet (based on this video) and the information you've provided. If you start asking him to step it up and actually do some things, I guarantee you'll see the horse everyone else did. However, that's where it's even more important to make sure he knows that you are "the stallion leader" out of your little pack. A "good bond" means squat to him. He's a horse. Have you seen how a herd of horses act together? Everyone does what the lead stallion says. No questions asked. Because they respect his knowledge and authority.

I thought she looked pretty good and even though the horse broke from the canter she did bring him back into it. You also need to keep in mind she was riding bare back.....lets not be too harsh here. :)

MyHorsesGurl 04-13-2012 07:50 PM

Im NO expert but both of you looked GREAT!!!

Klassic Superstar 04-13-2012 11:25 PM

Thanks guys I couldn't have been prouder for his first time! He's such a sensitive little guy! I really needed to just have a fun relaxing ride! Now I know what I can do and I know a lot of things to work on toile us better at bareback together :)


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