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Elky 04-15-2012 11:48 AM

Is Barack Obama qualified to be President of the U.S.? Natural Born Citizen?
 
Let's here you thoughts.
Is he legally qualified, as per the Constitution, to be POTUS?

Faceman 04-15-2012 12:12 PM

Why would he not be?

Elky 04-15-2012 12:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Faceman (Post 1455810)
Why would he not be?

Because in the Constitution it states that only a Natural Born Citizen is eligible to become POTUS. Is Obama considered a Natural Born Citizen?

myhorsesonador 04-15-2012 12:28 PM

yes he was. Just because his parents wern't, doesn't mean that he should be born in the states.

I dislike Obama for meny reasons, but that doesn't change that he is leagal.

Elky 04-15-2012 01:46 PM

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Originally Posted by myhorsesonador (Post 1455830)
yes he was. Just because his parents wern't, doesn't mean that he should be born in the states.

I dislike Obama for meny reasons, but that doesn't change that he is leagal.

I also dislike Obama for many reason. I actually wish he was the best President ever. But that still does not warrant him to be considered a Natural Born Citizen, which is required under the Constitution.
Please provide me with a document that states he is a Natural Born Citizen.

What is a Natural Born Citizen?

BaileyJo 04-15-2012 01:54 PM

I think natural born citizen is something that is easily looked up on the internet. It's also something that has been perused to death. Where have you been?

I don't get your question. ? Yes, he is legally qualified to be the President. Like it or not.

myhorsesonador 04-15-2012 02:05 PM

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Originally Posted by elky (Post 1455887)
i also dislike obama for many reason. I actually wish he was the best president ever. But that still does not warrant him to be considered a natural born citizen, which is required under the constitution.
Please provide me with a document that states he is a natural born citizen.

What is a natural born citizen?

??? He was born in america, he is a natural born citizen!!!! His parents are us citizens, just because they were not born here doesn't mean they arn't citizens of the us!!!

Can you understand that!!!

Elky 04-15-2012 02:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BaileyJo (Post 1455896)
I think natural born citizen is something that is easily looked up on the internet. It's also something that has been perused to death. Where have you been?

I don't get your question. ? Yes, he is legally qualified to be the President. Like it or not.

I thought the question was pretty easy. What is a Natural Born Citizen?
You just saying he is legal, does not necessarily make it so. I have spent countless hours searching this and have different thoughts on it than you do. Was John McCain a Natural Born citizen also? Was Chester Arthur a Natural Born Citizen?
This is not because I dislike Obama, this is about our Constitution, and the requirement made in that document to be eligible for holding the office of POTUS , nothing more and nothing less.
Yes it has been hashed out and persued, but not persued to death. There is very little on the internet to define what a Natural Born Citizen truly is, and why has the SCOTUS refused to clarify the meaning of Natural Born Citizen?

Elky 04-15-2012 02:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by myhorsesonador (Post 1455909)
??? He was born in america, he is a natural born citizen!!!! His parents are us citizens, just because they were not born here doesn't mean they arn't citizens of the us!!!

Can you understand that!!!

Oh, but I can understand that. His mother was a US citizen, he was born in Hawaii, but please show me the documentation of how that makes Obama a Natural Born Citizen.

Here are some Supreme Court rulings on the definition. The Constitution does indeed use the term citizen and natural born citizen which makes a distinction of the two. If it did not make a definite distinction, there would be no need for the mention of a natural born citizen as a requirement to be POTUS. That term was indeed put into the Constitution as a requirement to be POTUS and is the only time it is mentioned in the Constitution.

His father was not a US citizen.

"The citizens are the members of the civil society; bound to this society by certain duties, and subject to its authority; they equally participate in its advantages. The natives, or natural-born citizens, are those born in the country, of parents who are citizens." Scott v. Sandford, 60 U.S. 393, 476 (1856)

"The Constitution does not, in words, say who shall be natural-born citizens. Resort must be had elsewhere to ascertain that. At common-law, with the nomenclature of which the framers of the Constitution were familiar, it was never doubted that all children born in a country of parents who were its citizens became themselves, upon their birth, citizens also. These were natives, or natural-born citizens, as distinguished from aliens or foreigners." Minor v. Happersett, 88 U.S. 162, 168 (1874).

Please take note of the one word above that makes all the difference. That word is parents, with an s, meaning plural, meaning both parents.

Can you understand that?

myhorsesonador 04-15-2012 02:28 PM

is this a joke?


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