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mareesalerno 04-18-2012 10:01 PM

pulling back while tied
 
I just started working with a horse and he is very spooky. We are working on that, and he's getting a lot better - but an issue has come up.

If you tie him during grooming, saddling, etc. he will lean back and when the rope gets taught, he will freak out and dart. Last time he did this (and the last time anyone has tied him), he pulled back and darted around the side of the post he was tied down at. I wasn't there... But at the barn he was at the post has a sharp edge and he got cut (now he has a scar).

No one has tied him since then. When I started working with him, everyone warned me that I cannot tie him. This makes it very difficult. I have to have someone with me in order to groom him, bathe him, etc and there isn't always someone available.

Does anyone have any tips or tricks I could try to get him to stop leaning/pulling back when tied? Is there a SAFE way to do this?

I don't know if it helps - but he is a quarter horse & 7 years old (gelding). He came from a ranch and is/was very well trained, just has some issues from neglect/not being worked with enough.

Thanks.

Kayty 04-18-2012 10:15 PM

I would be doing a heck of a lot of work on teaching him to give off pressure on the halter. My yearling has not been taught to hard tie, yet as soon as he feels pressure on his halter, he stops and relaxes, because he understands to give to that pressure.
While working on this, to tie him I would be using a 12ft lead or lunge line, run it through a fixed tie up ring, and attach to his halter. When he pulls back, you can still keep hold of him, he can't break the lead and will learn that he can't pull away.

I would also strongly consider sending him to a professional trainer/breaker, to teach him to hard tie. Basically the horse is tied with a rope halter and wide neck strap, to a fixed object, and allowed to work it out themselves that they can't pull back and escape. It works very well!

waresbear 04-18-2012 10:22 PM

Blocker Tie Ring Horse Safety Clip Equestrian Supplies Lead Rope Ropes - Blocker Ranch, Inc

This has been recommended by good horsemen as a solution. Sorry I have not used it but others have and say it works.

Kayty 04-18-2012 10:25 PM

I have used those and found less useless. Much better to just train the horse to tie than spend money on gimicks

Golden Horse 04-18-2012 10:26 PM

I use an inner tube off of a tractor wheel, looped around a utility pole, or safely tied to the barn strongly, and then tie them to that. I've cured 2 pullers from rushing back and breaking ropes, halters and tie rings by using that method.

mareesalerno 04-18-2012 10:31 PM

Thank you for the tips. :)

He doesn't purposely pull back, he leans back (slowly moving backwards til the rope is tight). Once he feels the rope is tight, that is when he freaks out and bolts.

Kayty 04-18-2012 10:43 PM

Yep, still the same techniques. He's intentionally pulling back, leaning, pulling... all the same in this case!

HorsesAreMyPassion 04-18-2012 10:47 PM

I agree that it would be the best to teach your horse to give to pressure on the halter and to properly tie.

I don't have any personal experience with the Blocker Tie Ring or The Clip Tie Ring, so I can't really say if they would be suitable or not. Waresbear already added the website for the Blocker Tie Ring. If you are interested, here is the website for The Clip.

SmartTie Products

Again, I haven't used these products myself, so I can't really say if they would be suitable or not.

Fowl Play 04-18-2012 11:22 PM

We have the tie rings at our barn. The theory behind the ring is that when a horse sets back, the rope will slide through some and cause the horse to panic less (in a nutshell). I watched the 2 year old gelding at teh barn throw a temper tantrum, pull back, have the rope give a little and he settled down.

The problem I've seen with the rings: smart horses know how pull the rope out enough to get to the grass, or to go for a wander.

Foxhunter 04-19-2012 02:14 AM

There are two ways to stop a horse pulling back. One is (and I do this) is as Katey says, a longer rope, thread through the ring and hold. If/when he starts to pull back, you have a hold on him. The rope should be long enough that when he pulls back you still have enough length to get behind him and give him a good hard crack with the rope, across his butt. Second way is to get a very strong halter, equally strong tope, strong tree. Tie him well above his head height and leave him to figure out that he cannot break free when he wants.


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