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leedee4 03-21-2007 10:24 AM

New Owner Trying To Break
I own a stud colt named Buddy and he is now almost 2 years old. I really want to break my horse myself although I have never really been around horses much. My fiance has been around them all his life and knows more about them and has broken several. I know that it would be easier for him to break him but I want to because Buddy and I have a special bond. When he was a year old he got really sick and I nursed him back to health. That seemed to really connect us. I've read a lot on breaking and most of the information says that your horse must trust you. I feel that Buddy does but I want to spend more time with him interacting together to make our relationship grow even stronger before I try to break him. I don't really know all the commands to make Buddy do things but I sort of just play it by ear and teach him what I want him to answer to, is this okay? Can anyone tell me what are somethings that I can do with Buddy in his pasture to help our relationship grow? He's also in the pasture with 4 other horses and he's still a lot smaller than them. How big does he need to be before we try to break him? Can we go by his age or could him being sick have stunted his growth and we need to wait longer? Any advise no matter what it is would be greatly appreciated. I want to be a great horse owner but I just haven't been around them a lot. I feel the best advise can come from a horse owner themselves. Thanks so much for any replys!!!!

Tammy 03-21-2007 11:56 AM

First thing I would do is get him gelding if your not going to breed him. It will make him a little easier to handle trust me I already went through that with mine.I would start by desenitizing him.Start out by using your lead rope and running it all over him to get him use to something around his legs belly and back.And try lunging him and make sure he respects you and your space.I would get the clinton anderson DVD'S or get a trainer to come out and help you.How many hands tall is he?And what breed is he?The bred has alot to do with how big he should be at this age.

leedee4 03-21-2007 12:23 PM

Thanks Tammy! Buddy is now about 13 hands and is a quarter horse. I use a lead line with him a lot and try to walk him around. Sometimes he is very stubborn and doesn't want to but I never give into him. I also try to teach him things that me and him can enjoy. Example being if I'm kneeling down on the ground and I say here he comes and when i say down he lowers his head to mine. Still he doesn't want to hang around long and then he wants to go back to his hay. I have been trying to work with him for about a week now everyday for about 30 mins at a time. Is there anything I should be doing that will make him want to come to me and spend time with me on his own? My hopes with buddy would be to one day barrel race. I know we are a long ways off but I want us to have a good solid relationship. Thank you so much for your reply. Its great to talk to other people who enjoy horses.

da moose 03-21-2007 01:28 PM

I would strongly, strongly suggest you get your fiance to help you. He doesn't have to do everything, but someone that hasn't been around horses for a long time and a young horse is usually a recipe for disaster. I am not denying your bond with Buddy, but you would both greatly benifit with having, a "mentor" I guess you could say. Have your fiance help you, there is no shame in that. Set up a schedule with him and pick out days where he could help you. Start slowly, and once he has mastered one task, move on to the next one. Take things very very slowly. You said Buddy was two, I would geld him if you dont plan on breeding him. geldings are usually much easier to handle than stallions. Even if he is the nicest horse in the world, natural instinct can come out and he can act "studdish". For the time being, I would just work on getting him used to everything. Take him on walks, work on ground manners, teach him to stand square, back up, and turn around. Teach him verbal commands. Do some round pen work with him. Put a saddle on the ground and just let him see it and sniff it. Take objects that would seem scarry to a horse and get him used to them by brubbing them on his body. Work on him picking up his feet, do some work with the clippers and get him used to those. Too many people these days start their horses too young. Horse's bones need to mature and their joints need to fuse before they can start alot of work. Wait until Buddy is well into his third year before you think about breaking him to ride. But for the time being, just do lots and lots and lots of ground work. If your horse respects you on the ground, there is more of a chance he will respect you when you begin riding him. Just remeber, he is still a baby. This stuff is new to him, and if he doesnt get it right away, don't get frustrated with him. He just doesn't unterstand what you are asking of him. Be sure to always reward him when he does something right. Just take is nice and easy, and seek help from your fiance. Never be afraid to as for help.

leedee4 03-21-2007 03:05 PM

Thanks da moose! My fiance will def. be there to give me guidance when its time to break Buddy. My biggest thing is sometimes he can be one to just take over so I really want to do all the hands on that I can. Right now my biggest concern is getting Buddy ready and not pushing too fast or doing something to endanger him. He's def. my baby and I wouldn't want anything to happen. I also spoke with my fiance since my post and we have decided that we aren't going to breed Buddy so our next step will be to call the vet. Your advise was great and I really appreciate it.

Tammy 03-21-2007 03:41 PM

Everything that da moose said is what I would love to able to write down it just never comes out right.A nd she's right ground work and alot of it.I'm kinda going through the same thing with my baby. I want that bound and i beleive we have it since he really listens to nobody but me.I have a gelding that became lame i've had since i was 6yrs old now 24 and we really had that bond. He was only 3 when i got him for christmas.Now he's retired at my moms house running the fields.

leedee4 03-21-2007 03:50 PM

Your information was very helpful too Tammy. Right now I appreciate everyones comments and I'm going to check out the video you mentioned. I don't understand a lot of the things I should be doing with him like lunging. I mean I know the gist of it but I'm scared I'll do something wrong and hurt Buddy so the video was a very helpful idea. Thanks for everything. This is a great forum most of the time i don't get responses to my posts.

ImaFlashyBit 03-21-2007 03:52 PM

Okay now please do not take any offense to anything I am posting, but I am giving my opinion. I noticed on your titled you said "new owner" well my first main concern is you being a new owner and raising a stud. I also own a stud colt but I have been around horses for many many years. First I have to agree with others and say if you are not using him for breeding then you need to get him fixed. If not then your putting yourself into a whole new ball game.
Secondly if your horse is almost two years old you should be doing everything with him excluding the riding. He should be able to be lead properly, ponied, tyed up and be standing still. I would recommend GROUNDWORK GROUNDWORK GROUNDWORK! This boy needs to be in a round pen and worked. Are you disengaging the hindquarters? breaking your own horse is alot of work and takes time. If not done correctly you can ruin him and I am sure you don't want that. Please don't take this wrong, if you are determined to break him then I wish you the best, but please for the safety and future of your horse, please seek someone to be there and guide you through it.
Good luck.

leedee4 03-21-2007 04:45 PM

Thanks ImaFlashyBit! I'm learning quickly that I def don't know enough about training a horse. Please do not worry about offending me in any way. I came to this site for help even if it wasn't what I was hoping to hear I know in my heart its the best thing for my horse. We have decided to have Buddy fix and actually called the vet today. I've seen a lot of people stress to use groundwork but to be hones I don't know what all that consist of. If anyone can give information on where to find some of this I'd appreciate it greatly. I know Tammy mentioned a video and I'm def. going to check into it but anything else would be helpful also. I know it sounds kind of scary when I say I'm a new owner wanting to break Buddy but please understand I won't be alone. My fiance Has broken many many horses and he will def be there with me to talk me through it. I guess when I say I want to be the one to do it I really mean I want to be the one working with him and the first one on him. Thanks for the advise!!!!

Horse_love999 03-21-2007 05:10 PM

i dont know much about breaking horses, but i do know it does take time and patients, just work with him steps.


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