The Horse Forum

The Horse Forum (/)
-   Horse Training (http://www.horseforum.com/horse-training/)
-   -   Video: Pilot for new youtube horsemanship series. (http://www.horseforum.com/horse-training/video-pilot-new-youtube-horsemanship-series-121795/)

Ian McDonald 04-29-2012 10:50 PM

Video: Pilot for new youtube horsemanship series.
 
My friend asked me the other day, what to do about a horse that resists taking the bridle. So I made this. I'm thinking about making more of them, doing Q and A if there's an interest. :wink:

We actually shot two hours of footage yesterday and I did a bunch of different stuff.

Ian Mcdonald - Hard to Bridle Horse - YouTube

Skyseternalangel 04-29-2012 11:30 PM

Alright I watched 3/4 of it and had to stop it. Your horse is lovely and calm and you do a great job with her.

Though not every horse and owner have that kind of finesse. I think you should include little statements while you are working on each part that kind of alludes to what to do if your horse pulls their head up when bridling, or un-bridling, etc.

(Stopped at 7.06)

Going to watch the rest now.

Okay eek! I know you are a very knowledgeable horseman but if you are helping people with problem questions, I would not show you looping your reins around the horn of the saddle. When you help people out and they look to you for advice, they will emulate you and some horses will take advantage of that (or the reins are too short) and it'll end in disaster. Not criticizing you of course!

I really like how you include things like "I like to do it this way" it makes it seem a lot more open and not "my way or the highway" as most trainers/horsemen portray. I also loved how you recapped the entire video in a nice little blurb about the important steps.

Overall a brilliant video answering a very common problem question :)

Subscribed! Can't wait for more videos :) One can never learn too many new ways of doing things

oh vair oh 04-29-2012 11:36 PM

I like it. You have a great presence, and the camera is set up well. The sound was at a good level too. I'd want to see more. Like Sky said, I'd also like to see a horse that wasn't so good at it. It's good to learn on the horse who has already done it, and I think you should include it, but it would be nice if you trailered in the girl's horse and had her and her horse work through the problem. Great job though. :)

EDIT: WHOOPS. Didn't see that the girl was from Georgia. xD Nevermind! I thought she was a friend.

Ian McDonald 04-30-2012 12:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Skyseternalangel (Post 1479022)
Alright I watched 3/4 of it and had to stop it. Your horse is lovely and calm and you do a great job with her.

Though not every horse and owner have that kind of finesse. I think you should include little statements while you are working on each part that kind of alludes to what to do if your horse pulls their head up when bridling, or un-bridling, etc.

(Stopped at 7.06)

Going to watch the rest now.

Okay eek! I know you are a very knowledgeable horseman but if you are helping people with problem questions, I would not show you looping your reins around the horn of the saddle. When you help people out and they look to you for advice, they will emulate you and some horses will take advantage of that (or the reins are too short) and it'll end in disaster. Not criticizing you of course!

I really like how you include things like "I like to do it this way" it makes it seem a lot more open and not "my way or the highway" as most trainers/horsemen portray. I also loved how you recapped the entire video in a nice little blurb about the important steps.

Overall a brilliant video answering a very common problem question :)

Subscribed! Can't wait for more videos :) One can never learn too many new ways of doing things

Thanks. Yeah, I'd feel kind of dumb if I tried to come across with a 'my way or the highway' kind of attitude. I've been proven wrong too many times to be able to pull that off. :-P Besides, I've learned from so many different teachers who sometimes have completely opposite ways of going about things.

As for what I'd do if the horse throws her head up, I'd probably just bring it back down again. If she were really bothered I wouldn't even try to bridle her until we worked it out and she was standing quiet again. These things are actually pretty easy if the horse is in a good frame of mind and is ready to do whatever it is you want them to do. Like Ray Hunt said, "it's the preparation to the position for the transition".

Ian McDonald 04-30-2012 12:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by oh vair oh (Post 1479031)
I like it. You have a great presence, and the camera is set up well. The sound was at a good level too. I'd want to see more. Like Sky said, I'd also like to see a horse that wasn't so good at it. It's good to learn on the horse who has already done it, and I think you should include it, but it would be nice if you trailered in the girl's horse and had her and her horse work through the problem. Great job though. :)

EDIT: WHOOPS. Didn't see that the girl was from Georgia. xD Nevermind! I thought she was a friend.

She is a friend. We just don't see each other very often lol. I actually didn't expect my mare to be so easy about it as this was the first time I had done anything with her for awhile, but I'm glad it went like that. I'm always trying to get more refined/smooth/skilled in what I'm doing. If what comes out makes it appear that the horse didn't really have much of a problem, I consider that a great success.

Skyseternalangel 04-30-2012 12:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ian McDonald (Post 1479072)
Thanks. Yeah, I'd feel kind of dumb if I tried to come across with a 'my way or the highway' kind of attitude. I've been proven wrong too many times to be able to pull that off. :-P Besides, I've learned from so many different teachers who sometimes have completely opposite ways of going about things.

As for what I'd do if the horse throws her head up, I'd probably just bring it back down again. If she were really bothered I wouldn't even try to bridle her until we worked it out and she was standing quiet again. These things are actually pretty easy if the horse is in a good frame of mind and is ready to do whatever it is you want them to do. Like Ray Hunt said, "it's the preparation to the position for the transition".


Haha that's a good attitude to have :P Horses will definitely make a person humble.

Yeah agreed, though you never know. We had a mare that you'd go to bridle her (not me.. with me she was fine) but she'd start out low, then once the bit was in her mouth she'd throw her head up higher and higher and back up.. a mess.

She;s a lovely mare by the way. If I ever did a video with Sky, I hope he is as calm and lovely as she!

tinyliny 04-30-2012 01:23 AM

the sound is good, visuals good. I am glad you commented about not putting your head over the horse , for safety reasons. I was concerned you would not say it, but relieved that you said it later on.
Another thing might be to talk about how you don't "pull " the horse down, but apply a feel (like you said,) and then reward when the hores lowers by easing off.

I liked the way you talked about stroking her down, and I think I shall work on that. the hrose I ride is 17hh, so it's really hard for me to put my arm over his neck like you did. but I can put my hand over his neck. He doesn't like his head being "held" much, but I will think of it as "petting his head down" . I like that.

I think it's great that you have made a video. it' shouldn't be just the big name guys. I tried making a couple of short ones a year ago. But our audio was terrible, you could hardly hear me.

What did you use for the audio?

Ian McDonald 04-30-2012 01:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tinyliny (Post 1479145)
the sound is good, visuals good. I am glad you commented about not putting your head over the horse , for safety reasons. I was concerned you would not say it, but relieved that you said it later on.
Another thing might be to talk about how you don't "pull " the horse down, but apply a feel (like you said,) and then reward when the hores lowers by easing off.

I liked the way you talked about stroking her down, and I think I shall work on that. the hrose I ride is 17hh, so it's really hard for me to put my arm over his neck like you did. but I can put my hand over his neck. He doesn't like his head being "held" much, but I will think of it as "petting his head down" . I like that.

I think it's great that you have made a video. it' shouldn't be just the big name guys. I tried making a couple of short ones a year ago. But our audio was terrible, you could hardly hear me.

What did you use for the audio?

For audio I just talked loud. I'm not mic'd at all.

I do intend to talk about the actual feel that I'm using at some point and describe it in my own words. I have to give some thought to how I want to put it that won't just sound weird lol. I do think of it like petting though, in the sense that it's an affectionate gesture. She picks up on that and then she feels good about responding. I'm not so much trying to hold her head as I'm just keeping my hands around it softly and moving with her. I'm moving with her but she's moving with me at the same time and vice versa. I actually work on not over-thinking it though. That's what'll ruin you. :-P

Skyseternalangel 04-30-2012 02:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ian McDonald (Post 1479188)
I do think of it like petting though, in the sense that it's an affectionate gesture. She picks up on that and then she feels good about responding. I'm not so much trying to hold her head as I'm just keeping my hands around it softly and moving with her. I'm moving with her but she's moving with me at the same time and vice versa. I actually work on not over-thinking it though. That's what'll ruin you. :-P

If I could like this an infinite number of times, I would.

This is why you're going to be successful with horses. It's such a pure way of communication. It's not about force, which (yes this may be a stereotype but it's what I've seen) many men go about handling horses or really any learning thing. And which is why my horse doesn't do well with most men. They give off that "I am going to make you do something" vibe and that's not how he.. nor any horse, works.

I am looking forward to watch more of these videos. I nearly said watching you, but that sounds a little strange haha

Ian McDonald 04-30-2012 02:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Skyseternalangel (Post 1479200)
I am looking forward to watch more of these videos. I nearly said watching you, but that sounds a little strange haha

Omg, what a thing to be thinking. :P


All times are GMT -4. The time now is 12:00 AM.

Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.5
Copyright ©2000 - 2014, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Search Engine Friendly URLs by vBSEO 3.6.0