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WesternBella 05-11-2012 11:12 PM

Inmates Rights in Prison?
 
I was just watching the news & I thought this would be interesting to bring to the forum.

Where I live, it has been addressed that inmates have been able to watch cable, UFC, pay-per-view movies & even pornography!

What is your opinion on this? Should they be allowed?
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kitten_Val 05-11-2012 11:21 PM

I think the inmates must work their butt off, not watch cable TV.

azwantapaint 05-11-2012 11:29 PM

Look up Sherriff Joe's tent city.
That is how a jail/prison SHOULD be run!

Faceman 05-12-2012 08:25 AM

I think prisoners should be required to perform work to generate enough revenue so that prisons are financially self funding and cost the taxpayer nothing. If they can generate enough revenue to provide TV's, cable, or other activity costs, I wouldn't care one way or another what they did in their non working time. But the way it is now, prison is hardly even a deterrent any more...

dbarabians 05-12-2012 08:44 AM

All human need something to relieve stress in their lives.
Recreation is as important as work or rest to function normally.
Most of these inmates will reenter soceity at some point.
Without improving their self esteem or learning skills that will help them be full fledged members or soceity they will reoffend.
Allowing them to watch pornography is probably conterproductive.
Yes they should be punished. Without relieving the stress and boredom of prison inmates become more violent and disruptive.
Treating them as Sherriff Joe does is barbaric in my opinion. Shalom

kitten_Val 05-12-2012 10:50 AM

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Originally Posted by dbarabians (Post 1496739)
Without improving their self esteem or learning skills that will help them be full fledged members or soceity they will reoffend.

Lots of them do even with all TV and pornography watching.

I have to agree with FM that I wouldn't care less if inmates would pay for those things themselves. Unfortunately it's our tax money that pay for their "stress relief". Which is wrong IMHO.

azwantapaint 05-12-2012 11:01 AM

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Originally Posted by dbarabians (Post 1496739)
Treating them as Sherriff Joe does is barbaric in my opinion. Shalom

Prison isn't supposed to be anything remotely resembling a vacation.
There's a reason they call it "hard time"!
Recidivism is at an all time high.
Apparently, what the justice system deals out in punishment isn't adequate to deter repeat offenders.
Just as a child learns not to steal cookies from the cookie jar by getting his hand smacked, adult criminal behavior isn't being curbed by the punishments dealt by the courts.
The pain element isn't adequate to alter their mindset.
The implied pain isn't adequate to deter the criminal behavior.
I bet if we amped up the punishment, it would change the deterring aspect.
The US has the highest percentage of its population behind bars of any nation on the planet.
We also have the most lenient punishment structure on the planet.
Makes me think about the kid in Singapore that vandalized the cars a few years back.
The kid got caned and had to pay reparations.
I'm pretty sure his butt whippin changed his mind about doing something like that ever again.
People squealed that it was cruel and unusual.
It would have been considered so if he were on US soil, but he wasn't.
Singapore is an amazing place.
Very low crime, very clean, and the people are very nice and exceedingly polite.
Their justice system is also one of the more "barbaric" by our standards.
Theft is punished in the extreme - conviction gets your hand removed.
A rape conviction earns castration.
Their society is extremely harsh with those who would do harm to others.
Conversely, we take the opposite mentality in that we offer multiple attempts at rehabilitation before we crank up the pain factor.
How often do we read about a drunk driver killing someone, and it was their 3rd, 4th, or more DUI?
Convicted felons out committing more crimes?
Drug dealers feeding their poison to our children, even after being convicted numerous times?
One of my favorites is the guy who got stopped for erratic driving, and it was his 12th DUI...5th EXTREME DUI!
Yeah, sure.
Our justice system is REAL effective.
Sherriff Joe barbaric?
Not by a long shot.
He has the lowest rates of recidivism in the nation.
Might have something there.
Pink skivvies, green baloney, and a harsh environment that's a significant deterrent for repeat offenders.
There's many reasons he gets REELECTED by huge margins!
He gets the job DONE!
When inmates complain about the harsh treatment, Joe's reply is DON'T COME BACK!
The criminals earned their punishment.
They did someone wrong, and are getting their due.
Also, consider the effect on victims.
If you were robbed and beaten in your own home, what punishment would be just for the assailant?
Just a thought....

dbarabians 05-12-2012 01:49 PM

Treating his inmates like sub humans only inflates Sherriff Joes ego. It only re enforces the low self image most inmates have of themselves.
When we no longer re habiltate inmates we make the problem worse.
They may not commit crimes in his county but I can assure you they reenter the criminal justice system.
Most people in prison are there for drug related crimes, not rape murder or assualt. Yet they are treated the same.
I'm not saying they should have an easy time. They do need some time to wind down and refelct on how life really is on the outside.
I have had a few clients that were former inmates.
None of them had an easy time.
I have been a victim of assualt. I had 30 staples in the back of my head from an attack with beer bottles.
the teenages that committed the crime were convicted of assualt and hate crimes. They are doing 10 years.
I would not want them to eat sub standard food or sleep in tents.
I want them to reenter soceity and never again commit such violence against anyone.
I am certain that their time in the Texas prison system is no cakewalk. Shalom

SouthernTrails 05-12-2012 02:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Faceman (Post 1496728)
I think prisoners should be required to perform work to generate enough revenue so that prisons are financially self funding and cost the taxpayer nothing. If they can generate enough revenue to provide TV's, cable, or other activity costs, I wouldn't care one way or another what they did in their non working time. But the way it is now, prison is hardly even a deterrent any more...

Exactly

Quote:

Originally Posted by dbarabians (Post 1496739)
All human need something to relieve stress in their lives.
Recreation is as important as work or rest to function normally.
Most of these inmates will reenter soceity at some point.
Without improving their self esteem or learning skills that will help them be full fledged members or soceity they will reoffend.
Allowing them to watch pornography is probably conterproductive.
Yes they should be punished. Without relieving the stress and boredom of prison inmates become more violent and disruptive.
Treating them as Sherriff Joe does is barbaric in my opinion. Shalom

omg...... poor felon needs a stress relief, what about the person who was robbed and beaten and will be in a wheelchair for life? The person who did this gets 2 years.
Or the murderer who gets 10 years because the didn't mean to.
The dozens of senior citizens bilked out of their life savings and forced to eat dog food because they are now penniless.

Prison are full because the punishment no longer fits the crime.

Ever heard the saying? " if you cannot do the time, do not commit the crime "

I am not saying ball and chains or flogging, but get real....... Pay per view TV and Pornography :lol:



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dbarabians 05-12-2012 04:13 PM

WTG our prison system is not about an eye for an eye or tooth for a tooth.
If someone is harmed you cannot repay them by suffering .
Our system should be based on punishment not revenge.
If all prisoners receive is harsh treatment what type of citizen will they be when they are released?
Having someone tell you every move that you make, when to eat, when to rise, what to wear, cannot be pleasant.
The numbers of sexual assualts in prison are astounding. Injuries are common. Murder is not unheard of and is common also.
You are never able to relax except in your sleep.
A little entertainment is not going to make the rest go away. Shalom


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