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yadlim 05-13-2012 10:13 PM

Want to talk bits for a minute
 
So, I have used this type of bit driving my horse for several years.

http://i1248.photobucket.com/albums/...adlim/bit1.jpg

Just a basic medium port Kimberwick. We took a few years off driving, but now that we are driving again, he is not happy with the bit.

About two years ago I switched him, under saddle, to a medium port with a copper roller - which he LOVES.

But now, when I hitch him up, I can feel him workign the bit looking for the roller. He is not doing anything bad, he just wants his copper roller back.

Do they make Kimberwicks with a copper roller that are not broken mouth pieces? This is the closest I have been able to find. My horse hasn't had a broken mouth piece in his mouth in 12 years.

http://i1248.photobucket.com/albums/...adlim/bit3.jpg

or if I really want to keep my medium port - which I do, I can get copper, but the mouth piece is broken and no roller.

http://i1248.photobucket.com/albums/...yadlim/bit.jpg

Any suggestions? He is really unhappy without the roller, but he has never gone well in any sort of snaffle. - I need to add that I am open to switching to different shanks, like a pelham, etc, but I don't need tons of leverage.

Taffy Clayton 05-13-2012 10:45 PM

What about driving him in the bit you ride in? Would that work. As long as you are not showing I would drive in whatever bit your horse likes best.

yadlim 05-13-2012 11:05 PM

Um - that's a good question... that I have no answer to. I don't show and have no intention of ever showing - we do everythign we do just for fun.

My concern is that his riding bit has fixed shafts so there is no independant action. As Western bits go, it has very short and bent shanks, 4" I think. I always thought that I needed the indepent action for driving - now that you know I ride Western does that change your question?

http://i1248.photobucket.com/albums/...im/snow012.jpg

Taffy Clayton 05-13-2012 11:29 PM

Yes, defiantly too much bit for driving, I thought you drove in the Kimblewick.

Some places to try:http://www.doversaddlery.com/

http://www.statelinetack.com/english-saddles-and-tack/bits/1035/

http://www.theharnessroom.com/

http://www.carriagedrivingessentials.com/index.html

http://www.camptownharness.com/
http://www.smuckersharness.com/

My boy is doing very well in a mullen mouth snaffle, what about that?

yadlim 05-13-2012 11:32 PM

I am being confusing! Yes, I drive in the kimberwick, and the sides are indepentant. I ride in a short shanked medium port curb bit.

I will check them out... but let me know if you find something good for driving with rollers, tongue relief, a solid mouth, and indepandant shafts... wow, I want the world!

Taffy Clayton 05-13-2012 11:37 PM

I found this:
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I would buy in a min. if it were 5 1/2"

yadlim 05-13-2012 11:40 PM

OK - I checked all your suggestions, and came up blank... sigh.

Taffy Clayton 05-13-2012 11:48 PM

I wish there was a bit library where you could take out a loaner bit, try it out, buy it if you like it, return it if you did not.

michaelvanessa 05-14-2012 04:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by yadlim (Post 1498560)
So, I have used this type of bit driving my horse for several years.

http://i1248.photobucket.com/albums/...adlim/bit1.jpg

Just a basic medium port Kimberwick. We took a few years off driving, but now that we are driving again, he is not happy with the bit.

About two years ago I switched him, under saddle, to a medium port with a copper roller - which he LOVES.

But now, when I hitch him up, I can feel him workign the bit looking for the roller. He is not doing anything bad, he just wants his copper roller back.

Do they make Kimberwicks with a copper roller that are not broken mouth pieces? This is the closest I have been able to find. My horse hasn't had a broken mouth piece in his mouth in 12 years.

http://i1248.photobucket.com/albums/...adlim/bit3.jpg

or if I really want to keep my medium port - which I do, I can get copper, but the mouth piece is broken and no roller.

http://i1248.photobucket.com/albums/...yadlim/bit.jpg

Any suggestions? He is really unhappy without the roller, but he has never gone well in any sort of snaffle. - I need to add that I am open to switching to different shanks, like a pelham, etc, but I don't need tons of leverage.

i drive tricky in his valconate (rubber) slotted kimblewick thats what we calll them over here it would make him mouth up wet and except it more than a plain steel.

michaelvanessa 05-14-2012 05:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Taffy Clayton (Post 1498742)
I wish there was a bit library where you could take out a loaner bit, try it out, buy it if you like it, return it if you did not.

we use to have one over here but i have not heard of one for a long time.
if you ask may be there is some one with a large selection of bits at home may be thay can help.
have you thought about opening a library your self.
that could be a good idear for you.


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