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secuono 05-27-2012 04:34 PM

"Paddock Paradise" instead of muzzle and/or dry lotting?
I was out spraying my mare, coop, barn and the pony ran off. So I went after him and he wanted to keep on moving, so 35-45min later he's sweating and I still can't catch him. He smells the fly spray on my hands, thus thinks I am a tiger trying to eat his face.
Opened the 2 hot wire fence to the sheep area and he won't go in, even after I led the mare in. His face is torn up from the grazing muzzle, wanted to lock him up in the sheep area for a week to let his face heal.
But that got me thinking of the "Paddock Paradise" I have seen and read about several times in the past. I have great hills, since we are on a mountain. Hard part will be getting those posts into the rock, all I have is my bare hands and a shovel....
Since he refused to cross the gateway the electric was at, I'm hoping if I use Step in posts and 2 strands of hot wire, then I can make my own "Paddock Paradise". It will be at the pony's height, since the mare challenges nothing, and this will allow the sheep free access to the center and to cross the paths back to their sheep area.
What do you guys think? Anyone here try this?
I was going to follow the C shaped curve, it goes over a steep hill, flat low stretch, exposed rock area, over a trickle creek and then a light hill back to the barn. There is another steep hill a little off from the center, but that wouldn't make them cross the rock area. I could add a second hot fence that would curve away from the sheep gateway and over this other steep area and bring it back up to the barn.

Dark blue squares marks the flat area.
Purple squares mark very steep areas.
Light blue is only slight a slight hill.
Brown line is where the new hot wires would go.
Red is current hot wire.
Blue is property fencing.
Gray is easement fence.

loosie 05-27-2012 07:32 PM

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Sounds like a good plan to me. I'd be inclined to go the second idea & make use of the hills if that's not too much for you. I'd make the track probably closer to half that width too. If using step ins, you can also move different areas to provide more grazing if/when necessary. I'd also be inclined to make use of the easments, if that's possible.

secuono 05-27-2012 07:50 PM

1/4 or so of the easement is used for the sheep. Rest is a ton of thick brush I haven't cleared out yet. It's barbed wire and I won't install anything permanent on the neighbors fence, they are crazy people.

secuono 05-27-2012 08:11 PM

If I'm gonna go for 'full use' of the mountain-y land, this pic would show the fencing. lol
But that is a lot of fencing. The blue square w/the green dots is roughly 100ft. So about 2,000 feet one line, 4,000 two lines & 400 or so posts.

Saddlebag 05-27-2012 08:15 PM

Your paddock fence can be as much as 20' wide, just not so narrow that turning around is iffy. The idea of a narower track is to keep the horses moving but the width is what works best for you.The rock is great for their hooves. Let the mare graze it down then the pony will have barely nibbles altho you will have to toss out hay. Small mesh hay nets are popular tied to a few stout trees to keep them moving. The second plan would work well as it will keep the horses moving and it provides plenty of sheep grazing

secuono 05-27-2012 08:17 PM

Our grass grows so fast that I don't see the two of them mowing it all down. =D
It's 4.5 acres w/o the separation, btw.
But I can toss out hay once they do get it low.

loosie 05-27-2012 08:31 PM

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Looks like your second pic is still the best idea... assuming you don't have a passion for fencing work! 3rd might well be more ideal, but, well, most of us have to compromise on 'ideal' situations.

Re what Saddle has said, yes, you don't have to make it all - or any - narrower, but I was thinking firstly about the amount of grazing there appeared to be considering only a horse & a pony on it, and also the narrower it is, the more motivated they are to continue moving through it. For that reason, if there are areas you specifically don't want them on much, make those areas quite narrow tracks, even down to 5'. As saddle has said though, you need to consider turning horses, so I wouldn't make too much or long areas quite that narrow, and I'd also make corners & bends wider, to allow them to go round comfortably at speed if they so desire - that's also heaps of fun to watch too!

secuono 05-27-2012 08:34 PM

So the flat stretch should be real narrow. It holds water too long and will get nasty. Or should it be wide, so less hooves are smashing the ground up over and over?

loosie 05-27-2012 10:05 PM

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Originally Posted by secuono (Post 1519725)
So the flat stretch should be real narrow. It holds water too long and will get nasty. Or should it be wide, so less hooves are smashing the ground up over and over?

You may have noticed that horses tend to move over the same paths, so even if the track is 12' wide, chances are there will be one narrow, well worn path. Therefore I'd make areas such as you describe narrow anyway, to encourage them not to hang about there, and put some gravel down in the boggy parts of the path.

secuono 05-27-2012 10:09 PM

hmm..I'm only finding paths on the hills, paths of least resistance.

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