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The Greener Side 06-11-2012 10:53 PM

Tossing head at canter transition?
Ride with fitted saddle and riser pad, and correct girth, and breastplate with bridle and same bit as used for past 5 years, behavior problem, or mystery pain?

Skyseternalangel 06-11-2012 10:58 PM

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It could be either. Has she been cantering for long?

Can we have some more information on this horse?

The Greener Side 06-11-2012 11:30 PM

Yeah's he's an ottb, and was rehabilitated 5 years ago,
green horse jumps 3'6" currently, 8 years old, gets chiro work every few months, on two joint supplements, stomach ulcer supplements, hoof, and coat supplements too. Works 6 days a week with one day off.
No back soreness when you do the touch test, sound all over says the vet.
Bought breast plate thinking the saddle could be sliding back onto tender muscle, but now riding with it, the problem hasn't improved.

Skyseternalangel 06-11-2012 11:39 PM

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How do you cue him for canter and what do you do with your hands, etc?

When did he have teeth done last?

Kayty 06-12-2012 12:09 AM

If all horse problems have been rules out, I'd be looking for a rider problem ;)

The Greener Side 06-12-2012 11:04 PM

I just use a pretty typical cue inside leg at girth, outside leg behind, with a slight nudge on the inside rein to help him, nothing fancy.

Skyseternalangel 06-12-2012 11:26 PM

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And what does your seat do?

I've never heard of nudging on the rein to help a horse. If you mean a halfhalt, that helps to balance them but has to be done properly, involving seat, leg, and hand aid.

Celeste 06-13-2012 12:55 PM

Have you watched anybody else ride her? Does she still do it?

I have had horses that toss their head or even buck into a canter due to being overly excited; but it looks like you work your horse often enough that this may not be the problem.

LizzieE 06-13-2012 05:54 PM

Have you thought about this being a balance issue? IMO, that's what it sounds like. Does she seem to do it more to one direction? Do you feel that you are balanced when you ask for the transition? Or could she be weak in either hind that starts the depart? It sounds to me like the head tossing could be a result of any of these things.

The Greener Side 06-14-2012 12:52 AM

I've had my trainer, lessor, and another girl I ride with ride him and they all have encountered him doing the same when they ask for a canter,
I give a little pulse with my inside rein to assist him pick up the correct lead, and keep his attention on me.
Because so many people have encountered the same issue I don't feel it's a "rider problem"
Balance is always an issue with riding in general, so I suppose it is a possibility this is a component, but without much changing in the ways of training, there shouldn't be much reason to have a balance change, and since this started fairly recently, I can't help but think it may be something else?

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