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Calming Melody 06-14-2012 06:45 PM

Lunging Cash for the first time ...good grief!!(Sorry little long)
Ok so I decided I was really going to try and lunge Cash , even though I haven't done it before......Oh what a treat! At first he started going ok for a few minutes and then all of a sudden he tries to make a dash for the pasture while I am still holding on to him. I bring him back my way and he starts heading towards me head on , not fast but enough, I stop him about 2 ft in front of me and back him up. We go at it again and he goes good for a few minutes and then he starts coming towards me and I stop him again , this time I try and back him up and he WILL NOT MOVE . I was ok lets try this again so we start going at it he is going good again for a few minutes and than trys to dart back to the pasture. I got him back to me , tried backing him up , wouldn't move, tried shaking the lead rope nothing , tried a little pat with the stick part of the lunging whip nothing . I was like fine , I started lunging him again and this time stopped it before he could and patted him . I started walking him around on his rope and he did ok but when I was trying to get the gate open he wouldn't stay put behind me , was trying to come up closer behind me and didn't want to listen . I turned around and told him whoa and gave his halter a little firm jolt and got the gate open , walked him in and took off the rope . He stood by me for a minute or two and than headed towards my other gelding and first thing nipped Scooter in the butt and made him move. What went wrong ? I am blaming lack of experience on my part , but also some disrespect and who's boss issues with Cash . Any suggestions?

SGM 06-14-2012 06:47 PM

Reread your post, I would work on some join-up. If you don't think he knows how to lunge, then teach him to move his front end away and then rear away and use those two tricks to get him to move in a circle around you. Move up in speed gradually as he gets more and more comfortable with it.

Calming Melody 06-14-2012 06:52 PM

No I wasn't using a rope halter but have been looking around to get one , I was told they were good for training . I have had him for a month and haven't been working him and I thought he had been here long enough to try . I was using the lunge whip to guide him to go forward but it was like he was more worried about everything else that what I was wanting him to do .

nyx 06-14-2012 07:07 PM

You need to work him in close to you so you can control his head, when he come in simply grab his halter and push him out. You should be able to lunge at a walk and trot on just a lead rope and a dressage whip. Always ask for walk first get him calm and then ask for trot when he plays up tries to bolt pull his head in and stop him.. Stand him still for a moment to think about it then start the process again asking for a calm walk. If he trot with out u ask him stop him straight away and start again. Practise this untill he gets the picture. But before any lunging I suggest you push him around a bit, back him up like get him moving his feet fast, he should be backing up while your walking in so you need to use a bit of force, get him turning tight circles ie you walk at his hindquaters and keep his head close, when he over takes you stop pat him and let him think.

You could try the join up method but unless you know what your doing I seen it go wrong too easy.

Good luck!
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Calming Melody 06-14-2012 07:13 PM

That is part of the problem, I don't know what I am doing . I know he hasn't been worked with in a few years or rode and he is a 15.2hh over weight TN Walker. I love him to death and have been dying to ride him , but after today I am a little ify about it because if we can't work together on the ground , we surely won't be able to in the saddle .

nyx 06-14-2012 07:21 PM

Well how about just asking a horse trainer to come and give you a lesson in lunging! There is no harm in that. But make sure you get someone who knows what they are doing.. It will be alot easier for them to show you too.

Its what I done with my first breaker. I got a trainer who was also my farrier to come and help me as I progresses through the stages to help me and make sure I was doing everything right.

She turned out an awesome horse too btw. :)
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Calming Melody 06-14-2012 07:24 PM

I am going to have to do something . I have been trying to get them both to see that I am in charge , and not so sure I am doing it right. I mean if he respected , trusted, and considered me the "alpha" , lunging shouldn't have been that big of a problem

nyx 06-14-2012 07:32 PM

I see exactly where your comming from cos I had the exact problem :) Ian Bruce has a great instructive video that shows you how to gain respect from your horse. Hes Australian.. But other than that I think a trainer will be able to show you better than I can try and describe lol
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Calming Melody 06-14-2012 07:43 PM

I hate that it didn't work out . I was hoping I would go out there and everything would be just fine...some fantasy world. It's starting to get frustrating that the only thing I can do with my boys is brush , love, pet, and walk them . I love to ride , I go over to my friends when she is off of work and will ride her horses and we have a blast, but today has made me a little timid about mine. Cash is 10 and I am wondering if maybe lack of him being worked for so long , his weight , and my lack of experience all had something to do with it ... come to think of it I was doing it on gravel and he isn't shoed and needs to have his hooves trimmed bad ! ( Farrier is coming tomorrow) Wonder if that was it to ? I hope I didn't put a dent in our relationship.

nyx 06-14-2012 07:52 PM

Stop being so hard on yourself! :) But Yeh the gravel sure could have annoyed him.. With the right help you will get there, just make sure you get some one to help/show you and by the end of the lesson you will have this great feeling of knowing that YOU can do it and your horse can too.. Maybe ask your farrier if he knows anyone that wouldnt mind comming out to help? But untill then maybe just try and stimulate your horses mind a bit like for example get a tarp and get him walking over it or going over trot poles (even just walking) or walk him around his yard just get him to step over things he usually wouldnt. That will help build trust also and its nice and simple. :)
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