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Passion4Horses 06-24-2012 12:53 PM

Jumping ahead/release help
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I already posted this video in the critique section a week or so ago, but I would like some more opinions on my jumping position.
I think I get way ahead of the horse and then can't hold my two point.
Also it looks like I am really throwing my upperbody forward : ( I have some trouble with my release as well, I look like I have chicken arms or something? I have heard that trying to push your rear end back in the saddle helps you be centered over jumps, is that true? Sorry for so many questions I just really want to improve. Last week my confidence was really shot because I had to ride a different horse from the mare in this video that I normally ride, and this gelding will refuse if you get to ahead of him, and I fell off of him three times in one lesson because of my bad position :-(

Mckellar 06-24-2012 01:05 PM

I'm on my cell so I can give you better advise later, but biggest thing so you do t release, you coach says stay still but you are doing that to an extreme. Grids you don't have to move but you need to release still. Your just leaning forward. If you move your hands up your horses neck a little more then you bum will naturally go to the middle of the saddle and get the position you talked about. You look like a nice rider just some minor things to work on. But once I get to my computer the. I can watch on a bigger screen and see what other things come up.

pmr 06-24-2012 01:28 PM

looking good
Hard to see your leg in black, but if you want a stronger quieter leg try trotting and posting without stirrups and keep your heels down. Do this daily and it does help. As for your jumping position on these low jumps - sit up straighter in two point and let your horse come up to meet you, don't collapse on him, it's hard for him to come up and over the jump. :wink:

DappleGrayHunter 07-06-2012 10:16 PM

From the video, I can tell that you're getting up in your two point a split second too early and sitting back down a split second too early. When you're approaching the jump, just sit back and wait. You should move into two point position when you're horse's front legs leave the ground. Your butt should return to the saddle after your horse's hind legs have touched the ground. If you have trouble holding yourself up over the jump, grab some of your horse's mane. Also, I agree with Mckellar; you need to move your hands several inches up the horse's neck to provide an adequate release.

ccross91 07-07-2012 05:50 PM

I used to ride like this ; then a trainer told me to let my horse jump up to me and its stuck with me ever since . release slightly ; over smaller jumps its only necessary to move your body slightly . the more your upper body moves , the more you can create an unbalanced horse over the jumps .

MudPaint 07-08-2012 07:00 PM

Think of your basic jumping position as squatting in the saddle, if you lean too far forward, you tip over because your base comes out from under neath of you.

You are really jumping for your horse, when all you need to do is stay in your half seat, letting the horse come to meet you, and releasing with your hands. At this height, you don't need to be moving a quarter of the amount you are.

It may be helpful for you to practice your jumping position and building your strength over poles.

princecharming 07-08-2012 07:11 PM

a trainer once told me: everything about riding is about staying WITH the horse, you post with the horse, you sit with the horse and you canter with the horse. To jump properly you cant meet the horse at the top, you have to stay with the horse, and wait for him to take you to the top. this continued into trust or something...but i forgot the rest of the speech! LOL

pepsipop 07-09-2012 05:19 PM

try this put your reins in one hand use the other hand to push an imaginary wall. Keep the arm straight and watch the point of your finger. Your arm must be about 90degrees though and really straight your body will follow the hand
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HorsegurlHR 07-14-2012 02:34 PM

I had the same problem when I was younger and was riding a little white welsh pony. He was such a talented jumper that I had to have very good position to avoid being pushed right off of his back when he jumped. I agree with ccross91. It's all about being patient and waiting for your horse to come up to you. Here is my trick: watch your horses neck as it comes up in the jump. When you see it rise up, it is time to get in two point. Good thread!

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