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I'm learning my way around training a horse for the first time, and I haven't been able to find any helpful information on lunging.
The mare I'm working with is big and awkward when trying to lunge she comes straight back to me, and won't leave. Standing my ground doesn't seem to work, she just tries to run over me.
I'd be very grateful for any recommendations on books, or videos, I should check into as well as any tips anyone might have.
If this horse is running over you, it has no respect for you.
you first need to gain control on the ground, leading grooming feeding etc.
If you can, find someone around you that can help, it would make things easier.
if I knew more of her behaviour on the ground I may be able to help you further.
How long have you had her.
Does she, bite, Kick.
Does she push you when leading her.
can you pick her feet up, to clean out her hooves.
You will never be able to force this mare, she weighs alot more than you do.
As far as lunging her, keep her on a short lead at first, you have more control, small circles. and if you can get someone to walk her in a circle while your in the middle, may give her some idea of what you are asking.
If she keeps coming in to you, flick the rope from where you are, the end you are holding, that is connected to her halter, this may hit her chin, but it may stop her from coming in.
Remember get the walk right first, then go into the next gait.
Use verbal words like, walk on/up, trot on/up etc. to stop you may like to give a verbal command. and put you hand up.
She leads fine, sometimes gets a little rushed but we're working on that. She has never tried to bite or kick. She doesn't like to be groomed but she'll stand for it, and yes she'll pick up her hooves when you ask.
I've found the one thing she does like is if we put her on a lead and ask her to go through a course of somekind. Problem is I have to keep think of new courses. :) Which I've run out of ideas.
Let's see we've had her sense November. So it's around six months. She does saddle and bridle and can be ridden, but she doesn't understand any cues at all. So right now we're just trying to get some good soild ground work done.
We have tried the cirlce idea, and it worked the best anything has ever worked. However, she loves to follow people and so I don't think she's really getting the main idea.
I'll try flicking the rope next time we're out and see if that keeps her at distance..
Thanks for your help! I'm very greatful!
You said she likes to follow people, so when you get someone to lead her around when lunging get them to walk beside her (in between you and the horse, and gradually get them to slow down so that they end up almost near her rump, then get them to walk in towards you. (still walking in a the circle just behind her)it may take a few geos before she gets it.
If she rush's you or push's you when leading, make her back, until she won't back anymore, then back her a bit more, now you have to do this immediatly she rush's or push's you or it wont work, this is teaching her to respect your space. if she won't back put you thumb or fist in her chest and push with all yout might while pulling backwards with the lead rope. she will soon learn respect.
If she doesn't like grooming, you could start with scratch's, specially on the wither, most horses love this.
Would like to know what she does while you are grooming her.
and what kind of course are you going through.
see how you go with these thing, good luck,
It don't sound like this horse was ever taught to lunge. On nothing more then a lead rope stand in front of her hip in fairly close. You can use a bat but I prefer a short buggy whip. get her to pass around your body at a slow walk. Do this till she is comfortable with it. Then gradually give her some rope. Do not try for anything but a walk till you get her to walking in a fairly large circle and she does it easily.
Thanks for all the advice! I can't wait to try it all out and see what works best.
At the moment I'm counting my pennies, and planning to call the vet. I'm not sure what happened. I'd been working with her and she'd been doing fine, and suddenly she's staggering across the pasture. She's never been asked to move above a walk...because she has so much to learn, and I didn't want to rush it. But she seems to have gone lame, almost over night. She's always been a bit stiff in one knee, but now she's can barely walk.
Thanks again for all the help! I'll let you know how it works once she's on the road to recovery.
i had the same problem you need to stop what u are doing immediently. get a trainer out there for 1 day and teach you and your horse how to do this. if you do not stop u will have a very messed up horse
I'm very concerned, what do you mean she was staggering across the paddock, and gone lame.
Is she pulling one or both of her legs up to her belly as she walks, if so she may have stringhalt, or somthing more serious......if she is pulling her legs up to her belly or seems, like she staggers when she walks, see a vet immediately.... some of these deseases can be fatal.....take her out of the paddock, put her on vitamin B, E, and magnesium (epson salts) hay, and hard feed, (no lucerne), keep working her as much as she can cope with.
I don't mean to alarm you, but if this has come on suddenly, you need to treat it immediately.
Even in walk a horse uses far more muscles whilst lunging than walking say in a straight line. It could just be due to her stiff knee and because she does it often. I've previously been on a yard where horses have been hunting and when they are turned out the next day, they look horrifically lame and stiff.
When you do lunge, how long do you do it for?
A pony i was re training did the same thing. But with the help of a lunging whip(just brushing it over her rump) and persistence i finally got her to lunge, but its not something that happens overnight. It took her about 3 days to do it with out me using the whip but starting from scratch may take a little good luck and happy training :D
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