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kitten_Val 06-28-2012 02:25 PM

Supreme Court upholds health care law
Supreme Court upholds health care law - NBC Politics

So here are my questions though...

What about those with Medicare? Should they also buy insurance?

What about people with preconditions? At the moment if you have some precondition most insurances don't want to take you OR you have to pay LOTS of money ($700/month or so). So if I make, say, $1500 - 2000/month and have precondition, how in world can I afford to buy an insurance? And then you'll be charged with "tax" if you don't buy one? Sounds rather inconsistent...

kait18 06-28-2012 02:41 PM

are you sure you dont want to change the thread name to what country are we all moving too?? lol

the whole thing is obsurd and inconsistent so how they can actually make this work is beyond me.. :(

Corporal 06-28-2012 02:43 PM

Obamacare- (def) Do SOMETHING, even if it's wrong.

Corporal 06-28-2012 02:46 PM

Looks like the fire's going under the Tea Party now! I'm off to rally bc I don't like rationed health care.
Read Mitch McConnell's well written press release:
Press Releases - News - U.S. Senate Republican Leader Mitch McConnell

Don't be afraid of this precedent. If precedents ruled our lives, the court system wouldn't allow arguments.
REMEMBER, this is a law, NOT a Constitutional Amendment, and we replealed Prohibition with the 21st. It CAN and WILL be done.

kitten_Val 06-28-2012 02:46 PM

I tried to find any actual numbers on how much you have to pay for insurance with this law, and I couldn't find anything (only how much you'll be charged if you don't buy one). Has anyone seen it?

Susan Crumrine 06-28-2012 02:58 PM

Because I have psoriatic arthritis, our insurance is 180 dollars a week, and that is no dental and with a HUGE deductable.
Can't do it, won't do it.

gypsygirl 06-28-2012 03:22 PM

FlyGap 06-28-2012 03:31 PM

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I'm struggling to figure this out also.
My insurance is around $700 a month. Hub has a "Pre existing" condition so we struggle EVERYDAY to continue. Our rate has risen EXPONENTIALLY over the last two years because he had a flair up.

So as I understand it:
1. If he goes 6 months without healthcare insurance he will qualify for "free" coverage. Not sure where or how, but we DON'T WANT TO DO THIS!
2. So now it's a TAX. What they promised it wasn't.
3. Now say a person around 65 HAS to go get coverage, raising rates for everyone because they can't be denied even if they are very ill
4. It's cheaper for say, a young person with no problems to pay this tax instead of paying say $2,400 a year.
5. Then because they can't be denied they can go get a policy when they find out they need one.
6. This again raises the costs for EVERYONE with private insurance.
7. Everyone is supposedly getting a rebate from their insurance company this year. They knew it was coming and increased their prices to cover this "rebate".

Val, I don't know the answer to your question. Right now we could get a VERY cheap insurance policy. We were ECSTATIC when we found it... Then we read the fine print. No cancer, large organ failure, and a couple other biggies included! What? That's really the only reason one needs it!

So I don't know what to do. Subbing to see if someone else understands this better than I.

SouthernTrails 06-28-2012 03:32 PM


Insurance Costs |

Obamacare Taxes: Deep Impact

Employers of 50 or more will be forced to provide Health Insurance or face a Tax Penalty

People who do not Purchase Healthcare Insurance will be subject to a 1% wealth Tax Penalty.

Medicade will be cut over 500 Billion Dollars by this Plan

Obamacare aka Affordable Care Act :twisted:

Can anyone tell me how this make Healthcare affordable to anyone but the Rich?

Can anyone tell me WHY Insurance Companies will lower their Premiums as now we are Forced to but from them?

Can anyone tell me why Hospitals will quit gouging for their Services now that this is has passed the Supreme Court?

80% of what I see is a way to generate more Taxes for the Spend Thrifty Government

The Good News is, when John Roberts remarked on Obamocare is considered a Tax and the final SCOTUS ruling, this will lead to a filabuster proof Congress and make it a lot easier to repeal as it is considered a TAX.... sneaky that Roberts Guy is :lol:


SouthernTrails 06-28-2012 03:36 PM


Originally Posted by gypsygirl (Post 1571129)

"The law contains a few mechanisms to curb premiums, but it also requires that many insurance providers make their benefits more generous, which will raise their cost."

Thanks Obama...............


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