I almost signed this petition
I saw this petition on facebook:
SignOn.org - Navy to deafen 15,900 whales and dolphins and kill 1,800 more
It states "Navy to deafen 15,900 whales and dolphins and kill 1,800 more"
It such a horrible thing that my immediate response was emotional - and I was ready to join the fight!!! I decided I would rather find and read the EIS before I submit my comments, which I planned on doing directly through the EIS. So, I searched for the EIS, I could not find it.
The "petition" fails to include a link to the EIS in question, fails to give the EIS's title, doesn't name the command, activity, range, nothing...zilch. It doesn't provide what, exactly, it is that will kill these fellow creatures (e.g., name of device(s)), which would immediately return the right EIS during a search...if such an EIS exists.
All EIS's include a link for public comment, and they almost all allow 90 days for comments. So, why float a separate petition for public comments? If this is bogus...it is disgusting to accuse the Navy of something this heinous. If it is not bogus....there needs to be an investigation of epic proportions.
The only thing I can find is
U.S. Navy Sound System Kills Whales and Dolphins. Act Now to Stop the Killing! | Passport Magazine News
But that's not a credible source..... will keep digging.
But not credible still..
VERY biased source.. but a little more credible.
The only thing I'm turning up is very biased and NO credible websites (in my search anyway) and google scholar has nothing about it either.
I'd be leery as they ask for personal information.
Yeah nothing from the government, it says the author of the petition but nothing about the sources or the research or the EIS as you already said...
Huh :/ I wouldn't trust it.
Well, the enhanced sonar has been shown to cause problems with cetaceans. While I wouldn't expect you to put much credibility in a "green" organization, maybe National Geographic may give you pause....
U.S. Navy Sonar May Harm Killer Whales, Expert Says
As a scuba diver and a person greatly concerned with marine environments, I am very concerned with this issue.
As to the subject matter, thanks for bringing it up - this is the first I have heard of this issue - I don't follow treehugger news very much, but need to look into this, as I certainly would oppose the operations if the environmental impact were as negative as presented. I'm not a "save the whales" wacko, but am a concerned rational environmentalist...
It's a SCAM. My MIL sent me a link about it from one of the petition sites and I've had about three more emails autogenerated about my "immediate need to sign this petition now!"
It's a pishing scam.
(Not saying you purposely meant it that way, but that is how it reads.)
The need to comment on your opinion of the credibility of NG is at least vaguely related, but the wacko part and being a “rational environmentalist” (direct quote) just seems so out of left field.
Would your response have been the same if a new member, or say someone known to be a strong conservative chose to respond about being a scuba diver and had concerns about whales? :?
As to the second part, I am not sure what you are pointing out. I have been an environmentalist all my life, but make a distinction between being a rational environmentalist and being a wacko irrational one. There is a major difference between the two...one is science based and the other is irrational emotion based, and I would not want to be grouped with the latter. If you have a problem with that, so be it...there is nothing wrong or codescending about saying thanks for posting the alert, I am interested in such things, and will check it out...
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