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caseymyhorserocks 07-16-2012 06:59 PM

Farrier/hoof critque
 
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Casey just got her hooves done, these photos were taken the next day after the trim. What worries me is that they seem uneven on the hind hooves, the inside heel being longer than the other.. If I remember right from looking at her hooves. I sharpied on the hoof it is, LF is left front, RF right front, etc. I will upload the left fronts first, but I have someone coming over to ride Casey so I will have to upload the others later.

loosie 07-16-2012 09:07 PM

Can't tell balance from those pics, except front-on one looks like there's imbalance & def. flare on the left(medial?) side. Appears to be zealous 'mustang rolling' done & not a fan of all that surface rasping. I'd look into diet, etc, considering those rings near the top of his feet too.

caseymyhorserocks 07-16-2012 10:33 PM

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Originally Posted by loosie (Post 1600909)
Can't tell balance from those pics, except front-on one looks like there's imbalance & def. flare on the left(medial?) side. Appears to be zealous 'mustang rolling' done & not a fan of all that surface rasping. I'd look into diet, etc, considering those rings near the top of his feet too.

I have no idea why, but, the camera makes the hoof look flared, but its actually not (although I will double check tonight). I left for two weeks and was trialing Candy and when I came back Casey was a fat pumpkin and there were those rings, she might have had a minor bout of laminitis maybe? I agree with all the surface rasping, not a huge fan of that either.. Here are some more photos. I still have a few more of that hoof as well.

loosie 07-16-2012 10:45 PM

RF looks more run forward than left. I think the camera picks up the minor flares that our eyes can miss, but also it depends on angle. Is her LF usually so turned in, or is it just the way she was standing then?

caseymyhorserocks 07-17-2012 12:57 AM

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Originally Posted by loosie (Post 1601047)
RF looks more run forward than left. I think the camera picks up the minor flares that our eyes can miss, but also it depends on angle. Is her LF usually so turned in, or is it just the way she was standing then?

She is pigeon toed on her front hooves, toed out on hind. She is more so pigeon toed on her LF than her RF... This were her hooves about 3 weeks ago with me doing light trimming- just a mustang roll and some minor shaping. I just have a rasp, no hoof knife, I need to get one for her bars.
http://www.horseforum.com/hoof-care/...ritque-126566/
Cotton pointed out how her LF hoof is out of A/P

http://www.horseforum.com/attachment...que-989898.jpg

Which is her hoof that is more pigeon toed.. Comparing that photo to the newly trimmed one (I do have a better picture of the sole, but due to internet problems *cough* complaining family member *cough* with uploading slowing down internet I will wait until tomorrow) she still look out of A/P... I am debating switching farriers now. Ohh.. I know of a very good local horseman who is a farrier. Wonder how his trimming is. Or.. Here is this person who sounds good. Uses the wild horses hoof as an example for trimming, she does shoes, pads, barefoot, etc., and so only recommends going barefoot for horses whos hooves are harder than where they are being worked. Like the sound of her.. She uses how horses naturally wear there hooves and does what is best for the horse by the sound of it. Ugh, would hate to switch farriers though. Current farrier is really nice, always on time, and has done Casey all of her life here (7 years). Mmm.. Any votes on whether to switch farriers?

FaydesMom 07-17-2012 01:11 AM

Maybe talk to your present farrier? They won't know something is bothering you if you don't speak up. I would think if they have been working with you for 7 years, they should be willing to discuss your concerns. If they refuse to even discuss it, then yeppers, time for a new farrier! :-)

caseymyhorserocks 07-17-2012 01:14 AM

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Originally Posted by FaydesMom (Post 1601322)
Maybe talk to your present farrier? They won't know something is bothering you if you don't speak up. I would think if they have been working with you for 7 years, they should be willing to discuss your concerns. If they refuse to even discuss it, then yeppers, time for a new farrier! :-)

Hate doing stuff like that! Lol.. I will though. And I have only had Casey for 3 of those years and the farrier comes out 3x a year usually. I do maintenance. :)

loosie 07-17-2012 02:04 AM

Oh yeah, remember that thread now. Yes, if that's the LF you posted with the lines on it, it's also more 'stretched' than appeared in this thread, although without more info I wouldn't go religiously off those lines - different angles give you different ideas, which is one reason why you can't rely solely on pix.

It depends on a number of factors, including how frequently & reliably you've been getting her feet trimmed, but if the same farrier has been doing her feet long term, if the a/p balance isn't being addressed, then I'd consider the possibility of an error in her approach.

Only going off the one pic, so may be completely off, but is she actually pigeontoed, or is it because she's base narrow & appears a tad varus(bent in) at the fetlocks that makes it appear so. the left looks a bit turned in from the knee or further up in this pic.

caseymyhorserocks 07-17-2012 02:44 PM

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Originally Posted by loosie (Post 1601384)
Oh yeah, remember that thread now. Yes, if that's the LF you posted with the lines on it, it's also more 'stretched' than appeared in this thread, although without more info I wouldn't go religiously off those lines - different angles give you different ideas, which is one reason why you can't rely solely on pix.

It depends on a number of factors, including how frequently & reliably you've been getting her feet trimmed, but if the same farrier has been doing her feet long term, if the a/p balance isn't being addressed, then I'd consider the possibility of an error in her approach.

Only going off the one pic, so may be completely off, but is she actually pigeontoed, or is it because she's base narrow & appears a tad varus(bent in) at the fetlocks that makes it appear so. the left looks a bit turned in from the knee or further up in this pic.

Yes, farrier has been doing Casey for 7 years... 3 of which I have owned her. Now that you point that pigeon toed/fetlock thing out, I am actually thinking its the fetlock bending in, because, Casey's left front has some arthritis in it. The fetlock bending in would make sense as it would put more strain on her left leg and could eventually lead to arthritis. Hmm.. Thanks loosie, you're putting a lot of pieces to the puzzle together for me!

Just a little off topic, saw this and had to share!

https://sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphot...14726100_n.jpg

And now Casey's hind photos. I aplogize, I forgot to get one of Casey's LH, it goes onto the LH on the 5th photo.

MyBoyPuck 07-18-2012 08:03 PM

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I don't think this horse is truly pigeon toed. If you look at the hairline of that left foot, it slopes down instead of being level. While it makes sense to balance the hoof in and of itself, in this horse's case, there must me an imbalance further up that needs to be compensated for, or else that line would be level. I would try taking a little off the inside and see if that levels out. I like the trim overall. I've seen much worse.


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