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OwnedByAlli 07-18-2012 11:55 AM

Which leadrope clip...
 
I am having on going argumants with several other horsey people over what kind of clip we think is best on the end of leadropes

I like these (apparently theyre called Wednesbury clips):
http://derbyhouse.s3.amazonaws.com/p/s/312-0083.jpg
I think they're easier to use, quick to snap on/off and I don't think they break like everyone always says they do... The clips last longer than the ropes usually!


Friend 1 likes trigger clips
http://media.robinsonsequestrian.com...57103-R123.jpg
She thinks they're longer lasting and cheeper (never noticed this though :/)


Friend 2 likes these quick release ones:
http://t3.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:A...bt3_MsscDFhF7w
Tbh I think she just loves playing with them haha, they have their moments do my friends =D I can see these clips would be useful in some situations, like trailers and cross ties

Just thought I'd take this agrument to international level :lol: and see what you guys think of them. I need a new leadrope you see, mine is very much dead haha

Wallaby 07-18-2012 12:16 PM

There's also this kind of clip:

a "bull snap"

http://www.kyhorse.com/images/wl352110.jpg



I've never used/seen a Wednesbury clip, but they do look interesting and simple to use!
I like quick-release snaps on cross ties but I can't really see them being super useful while attached to a lead rope... I mean, they could come apart if your horse gets too sassy... :shock:

On my lead ropes I have both trigger clips and bull snaps. I prefer trigger clips. I think they're easier to use, less likely to break if a horse pulls back, and I like their look.
In an absolutely perfect world, I'd wish to have those lead ropes with spliced loops so hardware was unnecessary. However, I have to remove my lead ropes off my halters often enough that straight attaching things to the halter is more work than it's worth.

Speed Racer 07-18-2012 12:26 PM

I hate bull snaps and will avoid them if possible.

Quick release are something I only use for cross ties and tying in the trailer. They're not something I want on a lead line.

I much prefer trigger snaps. Easy to use and durable.

Wednesbury clips must be a UK thing, as I've never seen them here in the US.

jillybean19 07-18-2012 12:27 PM

I make and sell tack... And I pride myself on the quality I use. Here's what I think:

Wednesbury - never seen these, but would love to try them out and see how they last.

Trigger snap - Terrible. The springs wear out, if you don't have stainless steel, the triggers rust and get caught more, the trigger breaks off, they're weaker.... the list goes on. I simply do not offer these on my tack.

Traditional bull snaps - can't stand them either. Good quality, but I want something I can take on and off with ease. They're also heavy, which interferes with the communication aspect.

Trigger bull snap - when it comes to snaps, these are my favorite. They're easy to snap on and off with one hand, and heavy duty. Of course, the key word there is also "heavy", again interfering with communication. This is one of my lead ropes with a trigger bull snap:
http://jbarnranch.com/uploads/3/0/8/...01614_orig.jpg

Heavy-duty caribeaner aka "safety Snap" - lighter weight, strong, and durable. A good alternative to a heavy bull snap.

Panic Snap - Not my favorite for leads, but still good quality and durable if you get them from the right place. Still, I like a more "secure" snap for leading, though I use these for trailer ties for obvious reasons.

Loop - best for communication, not so great for quickly attaching and unattaching.

Rope snap alternative - I've seen these sold on a few sites and am developing my own version. Being lightweight and of the same durable rope I use for my tack, this will likely be my favorite "snap"... once it's available lol.

Golden Horse 07-18-2012 12:29 PM

Clip 1, the movable part is poor in some ropes, I have seen them bend a nd break very often.

Clip 2, I do like these, quick and easy, but also can break, and can end up getting clipped on loose skin....yeah I know unlikely, but did have a horse that was rubbing its head, managed somehow to get the clip between him and the wall, then get clipped to it *inserts eye roll icon*

Clip 3, I haven't used, so no comment.

Clip 4 the bulldog I hate with a passion, certainly the longest lasting and sturdiest I would think, but I struggle to get them undone, but I would be interested in seeing one of these

http://www.rainbowsend-ranch.com/images/Bull%20Snap.jpg

The little 'beak' thing would certainly make them easier to work I would think

jillybean19 07-18-2012 12:30 PM

Oh, and if your snap is outliving your rope, get better rope :P The hardware I use for my tack lasts for a very long time and I haven't had any reports of it failing, but the rope I use also wears like iron and lasts forever as well. Trust me, quality may be more expensive, but if you buy products made of the same quality that mine is (i.e. Samsung and PNW Select Rope), you won't be replacing your tack anytime soon.

jillybean19 07-18-2012 12:32 PM

Did I mention water/dew and sand get in the trigger snaps and cause them to fail. particularly when the water freezes in the winter?

jillybean19 07-18-2012 12:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Golden Horse (Post 1603675)
Clip 1, the movable part is poor in some ropes, I have seen them bend a nd break very often.

Clip 2, I do like these, quick and easy, but also can break, and can end up getting clipped on loose skin....yeah I know unlikely, but did have a horse that was rubbing its head, managed somehow to get the clip between him and the wall, then get clipped to it *inserts eye roll icon*

Clip 3, I haven't used, so no comment.

Clip 4 the bulldog I hate with a passion, certainly the longest lasting and sturdiest I would think, but I struggle to get them undone, but I would be interested in seeing one of these

http://www.rainbowsend-ranch.com/images/Bull%20Snap.jpg

The little 'beak' thing would certainly make them easier to work I would think

If people want snaps on their leads, these are the snaps I use. The "beak" makes all the difference in the world, as I love these (except the weight), while I hate the traditional bull snaps.

Speed Racer 07-18-2012 12:34 PM

Yeah, the 'beaked' bull snaps look interesting. Regular bull snaps are just such a pain in the patootie!

equiniphile 07-18-2012 01:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Speed Racer (Post 1603670)
I hate bull snaps and will avoid them if possible.

Quick release are something I only use for cross ties and tying in the trailer. They're not something I want on a lead line.

I much prefer trigger snaps. Easy to use and durable.

Wednesbury clips must be a UK thing, as I've never seen them here in the US.

My thoughts, as well. I use quick release snaps for cross ties. My trailer is a stock so I don't use snaps to trailer.

I have many lead ropes that are 20+ years old with trigger snaps that I still use. In 21 years of horses, we've had maybe one break, and it was cheaply made in the first place.


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