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ljazwinski 07-24-2012 04:21 PM

Any experience with chaste tree berries?
 
Hi all....:-(

vet was out today for shots and check up on Rocket's feet.... according to her, Rocket may be showing early signs of cushings disease!!!!!! :cry:
she advised me to start him on quiessence right away, along with switching him to safechoice feed... on my inet search for quiessence, I stumbled across chaste tree berries, and I prefer "natural" if possible... was just wondering if anyone has used chaste tree berry and what type of progress you may be experiencing?
also, anyone with cushings experience, please send advice if you can.....

PunksTank 07-24-2012 10:34 PM

Yes I do!! It is fantastic and Everyone who has a cushing's horse should use it over pergolide!!! It is safe and seriously effective. I know numerous horses who's lives have been changed/saved because of Chaste Tree Berry, if you want the absolute best for your horse I would seriously suggest getting a product called "Bess's Choice" It is an herbal blend including Chaste Tree Berry, it's a perfect blend to help/fix Cushing's horses. It works, I've seen it myself on a number of cases, in just days/weeks horses shed out their coats and feel SO much better!

Here's a fantastic FAQ about Chaste Tree Berry and where you can order Bess's Choice if you decide on that. Honestly I would go for Bess's Choice, it just has ALL the supplements that a Cushing's horse really needs, not just the CTB.
Eye of the Storm Equine Rescue: equine cushings

Good luck with your horse!

ljazwinski 07-24-2012 10:49 PM

thank you so much!!!:D

there are so many choices... just want to make sure that I start him on something that has been successful for someone else.... and because the doc said he "may" be showing early signs, that was not a confirmed diagnosis, so I prefer to try the "natural" approach first....

the sad part is that he is only 12:-(... that is why I really didn't even consider it as his "problem"... but after talking to the vet it is making sense to me....

I have owned him 2 years and haven't "changed" anything with him feed wise, worming, shots, farrier... then all of a sudden this summer he has had issue after issue....

really hope this stuff works... am ordering it tonight!!!!

again, thanks:-)

PunksTank 07-25-2012 03:38 PM

What have his issues been? I see all too often horse's misdiagnosed with cushings i. This time of year because of the short sugary grass that they're eatting. 12 is young for this. But the bess's choice and chaste tree berry are both completely harmless and will only help his symptoms even if they aren't all caused by cushings.
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ljazwinski 07-25-2012 07:05 PM

every winter he tends to get thicker and thicker hair, this past year he actually grew this real weird thick curly fur? and it only shed out partially, I had to resort to shaving him completely.... I live in florida and our "winter" was very mild this year... jan and feb he was soaked with sweat everyday due to the fur in the heat here.... beginning of march i finally gave up and shaved him, and then blanketed him if temps went below mid 40's.... it grew back!!!! june i shaved him again...so far it has not grown back? but, i have had issues with thrush that will not go away, along with scratches that take forever to clear... also he has grown "fat" pockets on his rear above his tail, on his hips, and his neck... according to my vet, all are signs of early cushings? she also said that more and more this is seen in teens.... she did not feel we needed to do bloodwork yet, wants me to put him on quiessence asap.... that is how i found chaste tree, while trying to research cushings....
I am pretty careful with my grass.... i have 2 acres split in 3 sections and only 2 horses... end of season I always have some grass for them to graze 12 - 14 hours a day.... when rain hits here grass grows real fast, but I always cut the pastures before i let them on it in the start of rain season.... they are stalled 8-10 hours a night...12x12 stalls with lots of "soaked" hay.... if I don't soak his hay he coughs...vet said soak it, haven't had a problem since...
NOTHING has changed in his feed or routine for 2 years... I thought the weight gain was from the "lazies" but vet thinks different....
that is another reason why i want to try the "natural" approach first... without a firm diagnosis i do not want to put him on any type of drug...

walkinthewalk 07-25-2012 07:15 PM

I have one horse with insulin resistance and one with Equine Metabolic Syndrome, a/k/a peripheral cushings.

Both are on chastree. It really helps the EMS horse.

Not so much the IR horse but chastetree, AND a grazing muzzle, do help him some. Winter time is his best friend:-P

My friend's Paso Fino was cushings and IR. She managed him the first several years with just chastetree but the cushings really accelerated the last 18 months of his life and she ended up putting him on Pergolide.

I have also heard of some cushings success with Chia Seeds. There's an equine Chia seed website that talks about them. Holistic Horsekeeping Store


However, if you decide to buy them, go to a human Chia seed website. They're are MUCH cheaper plus you can eat them too:D

I think this is the cheaper web site. Chia Seeds Products | Chia Seeds Health Benefits

I also feed the chia seeds to my IR horse and I have noticed two things:

1. His "peeper" is a lot cleaner since he's been on them.

2. He's always been such a sweat hog that he would foam up around the muzzle and face mask. He doesn't do that anymore.

I was feeding him 1/3rd measure cup but cut that in half because, while he WAS sweating too much, I don't want him heading for anhidrosis (sp?) either.

One half of a 1/3 cup seems to work as he still sweats more than any of my other horses but isn't the foamy mess he used to be.

I apologize if this sounds sketchy, I need to get to the barn; Mr. WTW is already down there and probably "Two-Steppin' Around" pretty good because I'm sitting here trying to get this typed:-(

Hope this helps:-)

aforred 07-25-2012 07:23 PM

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Originally Posted by ljazwinski (Post 1615350)
NOTHING has changed in his feed or routine for 2 years... I thought the weight gain was from the "lazies" but vet thinks different....
that is another reason why i want to try the "natural" approach first... without a firm diagnosis i do not want to put him on any type of drug...

I have seen a lot of people on the forum lately wanting to try the "natural" remedies. I know a lot of them work, and some of them work extremely well. Just be aware that "natural" does not automatically translate to safer.

As with anything you want to give your horse, look at the ingredients. Talk to people who've used it (just like you're doing right now :-)). Do some research tp see qhat possible side effects are and then weigh that against what you're trying to achieve.

I am not trying to talk you out of using this stuff, by any means. I really hope it works for you.

Do you have any pics of your guy that we could drool over for a while?
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ljazwinski 07-25-2012 07:45 PM

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Originally Posted by aforred (Post 1615377)
I have seen a lot of people on the forum lately wanting to try the "natural" remedies. I know a lot of them work, and some of them work extremely well. Just be aware that "natural" does not automatically translate to safer.

As with anything you want to give your horse, look at the ingredients. Talk to people who've used it (just like you're doing right now :-)). Do some research tp see qhat possible side effects are and then weigh that against what you're trying to achieve.

I am not trying to talk you out of using this stuff, by any means. I really hope it works for you.

Do you have any pics of your guy that we could drool over for a while?
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I agree.... if the vet said he HAS to be on the drugs, I would listen to her...but this is only an "early" guess to "possible" signs of cushings disease... she had reccomended QUIESSENCE, which is only a supplement. That is why I am posting to real people for real feedback on chaste tree... If I do not choose chaste tree, then I will start him on quiessence.... fortunately both are drug free.... give me a minute, I will post pics

ljazwinski 07-25-2012 08:00 PM

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ok...pics of the "fat"....

ljazwinski 07-25-2012 08:07 PM

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pics of the "fur"... growing back again!!!! it is 100 degrees here everyday and he is once again growing fur coat back...... some of this is on his legs where i didn't shave in june...still has not shed....


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