Charm's Foaling Thread
My mini mare Charm is very likely bred(we are 99% sure) it was an accidental breeding(she is a rescue, the rescue she came from the volunteers put her in with 2 studs) We have been watching her really closely due to last time she was bred and foaling, her foal was upside-down, with it's head bent backwards and one leg bent back, it took 5 hours and I believe 4 vets to pull the foal, then she was so torn up she tried to colic and die for over a week after that. I am really worried, because if she has any scar tissue around the cervix then we could very easily loose both mare and foal. But if worse comes to worse, I have 5-6 gallons of goat milk in the freezer, a friend that would happily give me up to 5 gallons of goat milk a day or a few goats, and a vet who would do a serum transfer if colostrum is not available, I also have all of the stuff I would need to bottle raise a foal and an emergency foaling kit. I'm only hoping for a healthy foal, I don't care whether it's colt or filly, mule or mini.
Anyway I've been trying to get my mind off of the negative side of things. So, her udder is filling, but is still a clear slightly white liquid(not milk like at all), her vulva isn't relaxing yet and neither are the ligaments around her tail. But we are hoping she foals in the next week.
So when do you thing the foal will be born? Do you think it will be a Miniature Horse or a Miniature Mule? Do you think it will be a Colt or a Filly? What color/pattern?
Bomb(Mini horse possible stallion, pics taken at 2 years old, he has gotten a LOT better balanced and conformed since these were taken, just for color/pattern reference):
I don't have any pictures of the mini Jack Donkey But he was brown/bay/seal
This color(not him, but looks just like him):
I will try and update every day or two.
Did you ever have her examined by a vet to determine if she is pregnant or not? And I would make sure to have your vet on speed dial...
How come she was put with two stallions?
As NdAppy said, keep your vet on speed dial. If nothing else you have to get her examined if possible.
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Um, The volunteers at the rescue weren't that smart. They didn't really think about it. Especially because they didn't think the undesended colt could breed and I've been told the volunteers that were there when she got dropped off thought the donkey was a mule. The vet is always on speed dial. Guys, I know what I'm doing(or if I don't my mom or my vet do). I'm worried enough, mom thinks I'm insane considering I've been checking her for any signs of labor or imminent foaling twice or more times a day. I'm trying to take my mind off of the possible problems with foaling, waking up in the middle of the night with bloody gruesome nightmares of her dying and crying until I have trouble breathing is getting kinda old. Please don't try and give advise.
With foaling/breeding threads, you're going to get a huge amount of people wanting to give advice and even criticism. I'd prepare yourself for that. Breeding and foaling is a very touchy subject, and everyone has an opinion about it.
On another note, she's very cute, but I thought minis get much larger with their pregnancies. (I'm not experienced with minis at all)
With her history, it's sad the rescue didn't abort a possible foal after the accidental breeding, but positive thoughts your way for a healthy foaling for she and baby.
I wasn't trying to criticize or anything in that order...It just never occured to me a rescue would be that dumb.
Back to the questions.....here's my guess.
Mini X mini= could be spotted or stay tobi marked. Not sure what the color would turn out to be.
Mini X mini jack= maybe some color markings, maybe some mini mule characteristics.
Genetics are just funny that way.
If she is due to foal, she doesn't look close enough to foal to me unless its a very tiny baby (which is possible). Do you know what month she could of been bred? or when and how long she was in with both boys? It could be another week if she is pregnant, but who can really tell? :wink:
Hope all goes well!
Yeah, it wasn't so much the rescue, as the volunteers, things kinda went downhill after some things happened, long story, touchy subject.
We are currently trying to figure this out, she has had an udder for a few weeks, it was increasing in size and is now shrinking? Also it looks like her belly has moved back and is going away, her vulva no longer looks like it is relaxing???? I am really confused. I know that dogs can have false pregnancies, and goats can come into milk without being bred(one of our goats did this, she even went into early labor, then it all just stopped) Can horses do this to?
Yes. Mares can and will have false pregnancies. They can be complete with 'foal movements', udders filling, and vulvas relaxing. But, if your mare was with two studs for a period of time, it is very possible she is in foal.
IS it possible to have the vet out to check her to make sure she is in foal so you know whether or not to worry?
Minis don't actually get HUGE when they're pregnant... My grandmothers mini mare didn't look any different from when she was pregnant, after foaling, and even feeding/weaning her foal... Besides the possible complications with the actual labor, they tend to handle pregnancies and nursing very well.
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