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demonwolfmoon 08-25-2012 02:20 PM

Grain/Nutrition Help for Yearling (New at buying grain, need suggestions!)
 
Ok, so at my upcoming new boarding place, the BO will be providing hay, leaving grain to my discretion.

My current BO suggests keeping Kiera on Mare and Foal grain, and says she eats near to $100 of it a month. Pretty sure she said she also mixes in some Calf Manna.

Does anyone have any suggestions as to whether this is an ideal feeding situation? If not, what kind of grain would you suggest. I do supplement her with Muscle supplement (AniMed Muscle-UP Powder - Horse.com) and I'm pretty sure the other one is this one: Farnam Super 14 - Horse.com. She also has free access to a salt block.

Details:

1 year 3 month old filly
Percheron/QH
A little over 14 hands
Eats approx 50 pounds of hay a day (per the BO)

She is not overly active, and I don't plan on any intense training for her any time soon.

Most recent pics:
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demonwolfmoon 08-26-2012 08:20 AM

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loosie 08-27-2012 04:04 AM

Hi,

I can't comment specifically on the 'mare & foal' grain she's getting because you need to tell what exactly it is & the amount(weight) daily would be helpful too. But basically, I wouldn't tend to worry about feeding extras unless there's a specific need, and would generally avoid grain & other high starch ingredients. Basically she should be getting free choice(or little & often, slowfed) hay or grass(I like to feed a portion as lucerne/alfalfa) and a good nutritional supp to balance the diet. It's best to keep their weight down & not try to 'grow them up' too quickly, as health probs can ensue from this.

What's the muscle supp for? Also 50lb of hay seems like a lot per day. Horses should get approx 2.5-3%bwt daily in roughage. I gather with her eating that much, she's not paddocked at all? I'd be looking to find somewhere that she was turned out 24/7(or close) with other horses, so she can grow up being a horse. This is also for health reasons.

demonwolfmoon 08-27-2012 09:21 AM

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Originally Posted by loosie (Post 1661117)
Hi,

I can't comment specifically on the 'mare & foal' grain she's getting because you need to tell what exactly it is & the amount(weight) daily would be helpful too.
What's the muscle supp for?

Also 50lb of hay seems like a lot per day. Horses should get approx 2.5-3%bwt daily in roughage. I gather with her eating that much, she's not paddocked at all? I'd be looking to find somewhere that she was turned out 24/7(or close) with other horses, so she can grow up being a horse. This is also for health reasons.

The place I'm moving to does have turn out 24/7. They have access to stalls though, I gather.

She's eating: Blue Seal Mare and Foal feed. BO says she eats 6 pounds a day.

She says Kiera eats 45-50 pounds of hay per day. She's been keeping them inside "due to flies and the heat" during the day, and letting them out to pasture at night. (Kiera is pastured with the majority of the other horses, she's a yearling, and bottom of the totem pole, with some scars to prove it :-( )The BO has always been that way with any weather she considers too harsh...I'm really glad that Kiera will be out all the time, she seems a LOT(!) happier being outside, and she's seems pissy when she is kept stalled.


Oh and she doesn't need the muscle up, she just hasn't run out yet xD I bought it when I first got my girl, because she was full of worms and probably didn't receive great nutrition the first five months of her life...I figured at the time that she could use all the help she could get TBH.


Also, TY TY TY for replying!!!!!!!!!!!

demonwolfmoon 08-27-2012 09:27 AM

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Originally Posted by loosie (Post 1661117)
It's best to keep their weight down & not try to 'grow them up' too quickly, as health probs can ensue from this.
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Reading this again...Is she too heavy???? =(
I'm have no desire to grow her up too fast or damage her future health in any way!!!!

MHFoundation Quarters 08-27-2012 09:31 AM

I've gone a different route with my yearling than in the past (used to feed Ultium growth) and am really pleased with the results. He gets 14 hours on pasture, comes in at night. He is on Progressive Nutrition's ProAdvantage ration balancer cut with a small amt of oats (so he thinks he getting a bigger meal lol) and free choice quality grass hay, no extra supplements. The balancer is a bit pricey per bag but is much more cost effective per day as he eats 1/3 of what he would have been eating in the ultium.

loosie 08-27-2012 09:52 PM

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Originally Posted by demonwolfmoon (Post 1661219)
Reading this again...Is she too heavy???? =(
I'm have no desire to grow her up too fast or damage her future health in any way!!!!

No, she looks good ;-)

About the blue seal, I wouldn't personally choose something so high in grain & also molassesed if she needs extra, but if you continue feeding it, I'd make sure you feed it over a number of small meals daily mixed with roughage - chaff, beet pulp or such.

demonwolfmoon 08-31-2012 12:32 PM

Loosie, if the food isn't "good" per se, I don't want to continue feeding it.
I'm going to look up ration balancer.
Is there any other feed you recommend, or is just hay and the brown NorCal grass good enough?

loosie 08-31-2012 09:45 PM

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Originally Posted by demonwolfmoon (Post 1666601)
Is there any other feed you recommend, or is just hay and the brown NorCal grass good enough?

No idea what 'brown NorCal' is, let alone it's nutritional content sorry. It also depends on how/where it's grown, etc, etc as to accurate analysis. So if possible/practical, it's best to get a pasture/hay analysis. Using a service such as FeedXL.com is a really good idea IMO.

usandpets 09-01-2012 04:38 AM

50 lbs of hay does seem to be a lot. Add in pasture time and other feed, I think she is getting too much. A horse that is not being exercised vigorously would be fine on grass and hay with access to a mineral/salt block.

Looking at the pictures, I really don't think she needs to add any more weight. She is still growing but she should get all the nutrients she needs from the grass and hay. Unless there is a specific need, I think supplements are kind of a waste of money and time.
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