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HorseyHan 09-12-2012 06:06 PM

Twisted Wire Bit bad?
 
Well I have a side pull bridle that has a twisted wire bit in it, and I've heard alot about twisted wire bits that they're horrible for the horse and things like that. I was just wondering if somebody could nail down specifically why it's bad for the horse.

The bit looks basically like this: Google Image Result for http://profchoice.com/images/F28998079.jpg

And the bridle: Google Image Result for http://www.kyhorse.com/store/tack/headstalls/sidepulls/half_breed_double.jpg

Sorry if the pics don't show up. Anyway please don't get mad at me for simply having one of these I just want to know exactly why it's bad/cruel/mean to my horse. Thanks!!!!

JustDressageIt 09-12-2012 06:15 PM

I hate twisted wire bits. They work of pain, pure and simple. Their ridges add "texture" on the lips, which causes discomfort. Movement on the bit causes it to press into the lips and essentially causes a serrated effect when pulled side to side.
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HorseyHan 09-12-2012 06:18 PM

ow. That is very very helpful!! Thank you!

SorrelHorse 09-12-2012 06:27 PM

Uh oh JDI - Here we go again, both of us on another bit thread! :lol:

OP - I do not find twisted bits to be as bad so long as they are thicker and properly made. I like a twisted dogbone bit, or a Myler twisted comfort snaffle. I do have a regular twisted snaffle bit, but it has less obviously twisted and the mouthpiece is bigger, therefore does not apply discomfort as a small twisted or a tiny jointed bit would.

It's all about how you use your hands. My mare has been riding in a dogbone twisted combo for months, never once has she shown any discomfort or signs of pain, actually she is quieter in it than in any other bit and she salivates to the point of soaking her own breastcollar. She never did that with anything else. I do not find twisted bits cruel. I mean, I would enver give the bit to someone looking to ride with constant heavy contact or to someone that pulls. In fact, if I have a lesson kid who pulls, I put my horse in a halter and tell them good luck.

In the right hands however, I find twisted bits to be fine. Just remember you don't have to have as much contact on a twisted bit.

SorrelHorse 09-12-2012 06:30 PM

The bits I have with twisted mouthpieces:

Horse & Rider, ETC.: Myler TWISTED Comfort Snaffle

Ring Combination Rope Nose Hackamore - The Tack Stop

Jr Cow Horse Bit 348 - The Tack Stop

Sweet Six - The Tack Stop

Keep in mind I am a barrel racer. My bits are for flying at Mach 5 and expecting to turn on half a dime...Can be done in a normal, plain french link snaffle...But I prefer to ride lightly, so a twitch of my hand I can get the results I want. I do not believe these bits hurt my horse.

JustDressageIt 09-12-2012 06:32 PM

Once you take up contact on a twisted bit, you are pressing ridges into the horse's lips. Doesn't matter how soft your hands are.
Sorry, I greatly dislike textured bits. You shouldn't need a twist in the bit, the result is achieved by correct riding and training.
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Toymanator 09-12-2012 06:33 PM

The reason why that isn't a good bit is the mouth piece is very small and with it being twisted it is going to have a lot of unnecessary "bite" to it. I like a snaffle with a smooth 7/16" mouth piece. I have found that this bit works for the majority of my horses.

HorseyHan 09-12-2012 06:35 PM

Ok thanks Sorrel horse! I was wondering because I've been using a twisted bit on my horse for the past 6 months or so and he has never once shown any sign of discomfort or pain. I have very soft hands and that's why I was so surpirsed when I started reading about how cruel and horrible they are. Never the less, I switched back to a light snaffle just in case because my horse has a super soft mouth and does not need a harder bit. I think it would be fine to keep using it but just in case something happens (he steps on a rein or something) I want to be careful and take care of my buddy. Thanks you guys!

SorrelHorse 09-12-2012 06:35 PM

No worries JDI - We're two trains passing in the night these days, differant directions but both with sound advice. :) Two differant goals too with each of our horses.

OP - I'm glad you found something that works.

oh vair oh 09-12-2012 07:36 PM

Why would you put a twisted wire on a side-pull? Is that weird to anyone else but me? You use either the side-pull or the twisted wire. Right?


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