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hisangelonly 09-19-2012 11:28 PM

Possible EPM case? HELP. Urgent!
 
Okay. Very strange stuff here. It is late and we live in the middle of nowhere. Theres no vets who will come out here right now. So I am possibly taking him in the morning. It is Zahir my arabian gelding. He is 15 years old and hasnt had any health issues in the 3 years I have had him. No lameness issues, nothing. Well Tonight I went out to feed and I called him up just like I always do. Normally he is very enthusiastic about eating and comes up pretty quickly. Well he didnt come up. He is on 5 acres partially wooded. So I went into the wooded part with a halter and lead to go find him. I finally found him and he was just standing there. Kind of just in a trance almost. So I put the halter on him and tried leading him. He would barely move. He had his tail up and I thought he was trying to poop. I thought he was colicking but he started pooping and it looked normal. I started leading him again and he was still going slow. Finally I got him into an open area and he was limping on his back left leg. It looked very stiff. So I thought oh dang stifle problems. I felt his leg and stifle for heat swelling or blood and couldnt find anything. I started to lead him again and he would not budge. My mom had to tap him with a stick the whole way so I could get him up to the front yard. I finally got him up there and checked his legs more. Nothing unusual. He was favoring his left for a while but then he put weight on it and cocked his right. He kept switching legs.
I tried getting him to eat. He wouldnt eat feed or hay. He wouldnt drink. His ears were laying sideways. His tail stays up. Then he wouldnt stand straight. His back legs were more to the right than the front. Well it's been about 2 hours and he isnt any better. I put him in a smaller paddock so he could be watched. Hasnt moved since I put him in there. Still wont eat. It is scaring me very badly. He is still pooping and letting out gas. All normal. He has never acted this way before! Could this be EPM? On Sunday the neighbors gelding got through the fence and was in there with Zahir for a while (we got home and the horse was in there. We were pretty confused). Could this horse have given him something? I know whatever is going on set in within 30 mins. I left to go to the store around 6 and he was acting fine. I got back 30 mins later and couldnt find him. I am taking him to the vet in the morning if hes not better. Could this be EPM? Or WNV? Hes been vaccinated for virtually everything. Or could this be a stifle problem and hes in too much pain to eat? I am very scared and I hope my baby will get through this. Does anyone have any suggestions or ideas? I am very stressed right now.

hisangelonly 09-19-2012 11:34 PM

Okay I just went out to check on him and hes eating now. Slowly but surely. Yay! I am relieved a little. But hes still not wanting weight on his back end. Should I still take him to the vet in the morning? Or wait it out?

MangoRoX87 09-19-2012 11:42 PM

This is not EPM. EPM does not quickly set in, is ever so slowly becomes more and more noticible.
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Chevaux 09-19-2012 11:53 PM

Two things come to mind -- he may have been injured somewhere in the back area from the gelding escape and interaction or he is actually having trouble urinating. A vet would be helpful either way. Good luck.

hisangelonly 09-20-2012 12:12 AM

Ok so there's no chance it's EPM. Thats relieving. Trouble urinating scares me though. He and that gelding didn't seem to be fighting or anything. Plus it was about 3 days ago. Zahir has no scratches on him or swelling (that I can see or feel). He was acting perfectly fine then 30 mins later he won't move. I never would have thought of the urination issues. He hasn't brought it out or anything. But yes there are some holes animals have made in the ground in the wooded area. Maybe his back leg fell into one?
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hisangelonly 09-20-2012 12:12 AM

I plan on taking him in the morning if he's not any better.
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Dreamcatcher Arabians 09-20-2012 12:17 AM

I think a vet sounds like your best answer. From reading your description of him pooping, I was struck with maybe he's impacted? But that wouldn't explain the lameness in his rear. So, unless he also injured his rear leg, I kinda doubt the impaction idea. Good luck and let us know how he does. Does he have a fever at all? Are his gums nice and pink? How's his capillary refill? Puzzlement!

hisangelonly 09-20-2012 12:22 AM

I couldn't tell because it's dark out side. :/. We don't have much light out here and I can't tell with a flashlight. It's pitch black where I am in the middle of the country. Why must bad things happen at night? I also don't have a thermometer. We used to but I'm not sure what happened to it. Never really needed it :/. He wouldn't let me pick up any of his feet and usually he just throws them up for me to see lol. But he pooped fine it was a little runny but otherwise pretty normal. Passing gas too. :/. But it scared me that he wouldn't eat. Was not interested at all. Normally he just can't wait to eat.
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Dreamcatcher Arabians 09-20-2012 12:25 AM

Yeah, I'm thinking vet in the morning then. It's just too hard for you to figure it out in the pitch black and if he's still off in the morning, he probably needs to be seen.

amp23 09-20-2012 12:26 AM

I would guess impaction as well. Once we had a horse at my barn act weird while colicing, something I had never seen before, and his legs kept buckling under him and he almost looked as though his legs hurt. In reality he was having trouble trying to pee/poop and after a bit of walking he ended up fine (of course acted fine again right before the vet got there). Another horse at the barn I work at had a horse have some issues urinating and after a vet visit he was fine (I don't remember his diagnosis, though, I was not there). If he is not acting normal by the morning I'd call a vet for sure. I'd def be doing some nighttime checks on him though if at all possible. Hope it turns out to be nothing serious! Will be keeping yall in my thoughts.


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